i was in south carolina with him last week. it is long shot for john kasich. when you look at him in the polls, nobody knows who he is. he's pulling around 2% with republicans. it's long shot. that said he is a governor. he does have a lot of experience. he is from an important state of ohio. he has launched this new fund raidsing operation, a 527. that will allow him to test the waters a little bit more. all of a sudden he can take unlimited donations. he can go to south carolina new hampshire and iowa if they decide they want to go there and have voters feel it out. i'm going to say one more time it's long shot. >> it's a long shot. but he's a very smart guy. i know what worries the hillary clinton people very quickly. jeb bush john kasich ticket. john kasich the vice presidential running made. florida and ohio. >> they need those two states. in a primary kasich has one problem. obamacare. he fought on the state side. >> guys thanks very much.