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sk schooling has to be the number one priority. that schools need to be the last to close and the first to open. reducing community transmission is about closing bars, not about closing schools. and we know that there are so many methods that we now have to keep people open for in-person learning, meaning vaccines, boosters, and tests where available. so i think the focus on making sure that schools are open is -- that really should be our number one priority. and that at this point, there should be no reason why schools are closed for in-person instruction. >> as you know, several former health advisers to president biden now says that the white house needs to adopt a new pandemic strategy, focusing in on learning to live with this virus. what exactly would that look like? >> we need to recognize that covid is here with us. i hope that it's not going to be at this kind of level where there's so much virus around us and hospitals are getting o over overwhelmed, but we have to accept that omicron may very

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