with the pressure this high, can i keep it together? will they follow the rules joining me tonight? someone who is no stranger to high pressure moments in american history. the form of richard nixon, white house counsel john de john, it's great to see you. we spent a lot of time. what's at stake for donald trump? the tension between the judge and the lawyers, the prosecutor who's stay going to stand up and try to put a former president of the united states in jail. it's never happened before. but what about these 12 ordinary americans who have to sit there who are now part of huge history and they have enormous it's pressure and also enormous stakes well, they must feel it especially by the fact they're anonymous and then they know that they know that their identity is being withheld. >> in fact, one of them resigned from the jury pool when or the initial jury when she found out she had been uncovered by media coverage in general. and others figured out it was her. so yes, they're under a lot of pressure. they know what's ahead. it's a big decision. they're going to have to make at some point when they