i think, tonight, he showed the energy, the empathy, the hopefulness that a presidential candidate would have. i think it was a triumph for him, for the country and certainly for the democrats. people were so excited about his presentation tonight. >> all right, former house speaker nancy pelosi, thank you so much for being here. we are glad paul is on the mend. it's always good to see. >> thank you. lovely to be with you. >> jake, thanks so much. she's not only a historic figure. she's also a student of history. i love how she can sort of wheel off the house counts of franklin delano roosevelt. >> yeah. and also the jerry brown -- when 40 years apart for governor of california -- once as an agent of change and then as an agent of experience. but we ought to talk a little bit about sarah huckabee sanders sanders --