because you can't draw independents. he's got a small number of the republican base. so is that gonna shrink, or expand? and my conversation is both with donors, but with grassroots republicans. from iowa, to new hampshire. it is, let's look for an alternative that can win. we want to win. >> two random states that you just picked out. [laughter] i want to new hampshire. but on that point, sort of, if you choose to get in the race. is that going to be one of your arguments? that he cannot win in november? >> sure. absolutely. >> when are you gonna decide if you can run? >> stay tuned. but it is probably going to be later in spring. you have a little bit of time to work with. right now it is important to message. this is the perfect illustration of, it when president biden said what the contrast is. when a consistent, conservative message. but engaging in problem solving. that is what i hope that our future candidates will focus on. >> thanks for staying up late with us. nice to see you! >> thank you, good to be with.