parade since -- i'm sorry, waukesha parade since covid began. and so people are out and about. so you want to make sure that there's no systemic, pervasive kind of attack or unrest. and i think that's been sort of put to rest. so that is the good news out of this. >> and one odd aspect of this is, of course, that horrific video of the car plowing through people. there's another video of the car driving through not targeting at all. >> that's why i got on early and people get mad at me because i don't speculate, but i said here are -- i help plan major events, so either sporting events or whatever for security reasons. a couple things stood out to me that's why we have to await judgment. one is that the car was damaged before it entered the parade