clyburn says it's about messaging. what does this look like to win michigan for democrats? >> good morning. always good to be with you. i think there are a lot of things that have to be done. i think first of all -- first of all, i want to say this about polling, you know, polling is a snapshot in time and i will remind everybody, everybody said hillary clinton had the election won and i told people donald trump was going to win michigan even when the polls showed hillary clinton back in 2015, 2016. so let's remember polls are a snapshot in time and are not the actual election day results. when you come into michigan you have a lot of different groups right now. i think all of us have to do a far better job of communicating what joe biden has gotten done. that those roads and bridges that are getting fixed, the internet that's out there, the insulin prices that have been lowered are not because of what's happened at the state level or by a republican