about what phil was just referring to and the scene. what you're looking at there is exactly the sort of environment you would get with an explosive decompression by a plane at altitude. now, the missile how it struck did not blow that plane up. it started a destructive process. that destructive process continued as the plane decompressed in an explosive fashion. it literally unravelled in the air. and when this happens, this is exactly the sort of debris field. it is horrific. we saw it with lockerbie. we saw it with twa. these are the sort of things that happen when a plane does fall out of the sky at altitude. >> i want to talk to you about there is some add wrote that i want you to listen to. and it is an audio recording. it was obtained for cnn from the ukrainian financials the rebels how they received this missile launcher from russia.