t flat. we're like a chain that is only as strong as our weakest link, if middle america isn't doing something different, then what does it matter? it comes here eventually. >> it does, but what you said before was profoundly true. if someone's vaccinated, particularly they've gotten that booster, they're a hell of a lot safer. they still might get covid. i might get covid, but we're going to live through it. we probably don't end up in the hospital, which is not only good for you and me. it's good for the whole society. it's good so that our hospital system can treat people in greater need. i believe the more mandates, the more impact, and we've got to be bold about this. ma mayors, governors, ceos, bite the bullet. just do it. yeah, you're going to have protests. guess what, it's a global pandemic. suck it up. go and do it, get it done. >> should there be an exception in your mandate for people who have had it. i know if they've had monocrowal