and this is the biggest test of all. and he may -- he very well looks like he's failing to meet the challenges. >> ambassador, do you agree with that assessment. is his head in the sand, or is it a cooler head that's prevailing in terms of thinking about this strategically. you have spoken to that president recently and had a complimentary view of him. does it strike you that lieutenant colonel is more accurate now? >> it doesn't. i did meet with president zelenski a couple of weeks ago. we had a good conversation on this very topic, laura. and you're right. there are two messages that need to be presented. one is the urgency that president biden has made. and it suggests that there needs to be good preparation and accurate and full preparation. and that's going on. there's another message that needs to be presented, and that's what you hear from president zelenski, which is a calm determination, a resolute