number two, is sat their yo, so i think he is going to hang in. scenario he sustains. got the money to do it. people look a strong leader. we figured that attribute during the bush campaigns and presidential campaigns. the number one attribute people look for strength. he's got it. the money to sustain. i think he goes, carson could win iowa. lose new hampshire. he will gather enough delegates to go off to the convention and cause a lot of trouble. o >> psabossibly be the nominee. >> lot's go back to the carly fiorina comment. my colleague anderson cooper spoke with the rolling stone reporter who interviewed trump when he made the carly fiorina, look at that face remark. he said, they were just talking about. this is how he described donald trump. listen. >> i found donald to be two people. i found him first of all to be an extraordinarily shrewd predator. some one who as i describe in