could be a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution, which essentially limits foreign influence on a president -- tries to limits the president's ability to enrich himself in office. they could say that is also part of the impeachment probe. they're trying to make it clear the things they're doing in the committee, tie it all back to impeachment, and ultimately make the decision, vodon -- actually the next step after these hearings would be to decide whether to vote to actually impeach the president. that would occur on the committee level and then the full house would have to vote. >> manu, i want you to stand by because i want to bring in the group of folks we have assembled to talk about it. charlie dent, i'm going to bring you in. thoughts on the breaking news, what you've just heard. >> well, it's pretty clear that jerry nadler is trying to lay down a predicate for potential articles of impeachment.