it had nothing to do with a quid pro -- all of those things, which i mean come on. >> well, look, they're assuming that we don't have eyes and ears, that we shouldn't believe our lying eyes. i mean, it's just stunning. anybody can read that phone transcript, and they can read the whistle-blower complaint. those two documents are pretty much aligned. i mean there is no question the president of the united states used his office. he was trying to use his office to get a foreign head of state to investigate his principal political opponent. can't use official resources to do that. then there's the issue of the quid pro quo. it was clear, and mulvaney confessed to it. they were trying to basically withhold military aid in exchange for, you know, information, dirt, and also perhaps a white house visit. i mean that's clear. >> yeah. >> we can -- you know, we can spin this any way we want, but the problem for the trump administration is most of us can read. >> yeah. >> and we can make these decisions on our own. we don't need their help. we don't need them to distract us and push us off onto some