also attended along with energy secretary rick perry. the meeting proceeded well until the ukrainians broached the subject of a meeting between the two presidents. the ukrainians saw this meeting as critically important in order to solidify the support of their most important international partner. ambassador sondland started to speak about ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with the president, at which time ambassador bolton cut the meeting short. following this meeting, there was a scheduled debriefing during which ambassador sondland emphasized the importance that ukraine deliver the investigations into the 2016 election, the bidens, and burisma. i stated to ambassador sondland that his statements were inappropriate, that the request to investigate biden and his son had nothing to do with national security and that such investigations were not something the nsc was going to get involved in or push. dr. hill then entered the room and asserted to ambassador sondland that his statements were inappropriate. following the debriefing meeting, i reported my concerns to the nsc's lead counsel.