who you're leading and what their concerns are and where there's commonality of interest or where there are differences, and so when the people would say to me, how are you going to do this? it looks impossible. i say it's not impossible. there's nothing -- we cannot let anything stand in our way. if there is a fence in front of us we will push open the gate. if that doesn't work we'll climb the fence. if that doesn't work we'll pole vault in and if that doesn't work we'll parachute in. >> is that part of your superpower, just be tougher and more relentless and wear the other guy out? >> just get it done, baby. that's just get it done. you have to compromise. that's a negotiation. but you cannot, you cannot lose the fight. you cannot tire. resting is rusting. you got to stay there. >> thank you for watching. you can see our entire conversations with alexis ohanian and smokey robinson any time you want on hbo max.