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For both trump and president biden. How voters feel about a potential rematch in 2024. Were following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. Theyre on their way home, right now, Five Americans who were wrongfully detained in iran for years are in the air en route to the United States. Its the result of a rare deal between washington and tehran. On the other end of it, the United States released five iranian nationals and freed up billions of dollars in iranian funds strictly for humanitarian use. But the white house is very quick to note that this deal does not mark a cooling of tensions between the two adversaries. In fact, the Biden Administration Just Announced a new round of sanctions on tehran. Cnns Natasha Bertrand has been tracking all of the latest details. Natasha, this was the result of a complicated multiyear long effort. Yeah, boris, the Biden Administration has been trying to get these Prisoners Released from iran for the better part of two years. The deal started to take shape in about six months when the iranian negotiations gee ban in qatar, using qataris as intermediary in change for the release of five iranians who are in u. S. Prisons as well, agency the release of billion in previously restricted in iranian funds that will now be able to be used by iran for humanitarian goods. Like medicine, medical supplies, agricultural and food. This is already coming under fire from republicans who say this is essentially a Ransom Payment and that it will only encourage iran to take more americans hostage and it will basically encourage bad behavior. But Secretary Of State antony blinken, he said earlier in remarks, that, look, this is not money that was ever prohibited from being used for humanitarian purposes. The u. S. Does not issue sanctions that are designed to hurt the people. 9 public, the population of the countries governments that they are targeting. Heres what he said. From day one, our sanctions have clearly and indeed always exempt the use of resources for humanitarian purposes. Because our aim is not to harm the iranian people. Our problem, our profound problem, is with the Iranian Regime. The funds were moved to another bank where we have absolutely oversight of how theyre used. And they can only use for humanitarian purposes. Now, as we said, boris, the administration has emphasized that this will not result in a cooling of tensions between the u. S. And iran. And officials have said, dont expect further talks at least not this week, between the u. S. And iranian officials here. In fact as we noted earlier the u. S. Has actually issued more sanctions on irans intelligence and mahmoud ahmadinejad. Natasha bertrand, thank you for the update. Jim. Well, our next guest was wrongfully imprisoned himself. Hes a Washington Post contributor and good friend jason rezaian. Good to have you on, jason. Thanks. This is a personal story. Set aside the politics, you were released after 475 days. Some of the prisoners are there for five years or lauonger. What are the first days or weeks of freedom . Its the most unbelievable mixed bag of emotion. There is relief, theres joy, elation. But also confusion, being in captivity, having choice, free will stripped from you for so long, its a very jarring thing to come back to. And then, of course, reuniting with ones family, that youve been envisioning for years. In the case of three of these americans, you know, its always more complicated than in your dreams. But at the end of the day, its wonderful that these five families will be reunited. There are two other u. S. Nationals held in iran, its heartbreaking. So its just a huge mixed bag for everybody. Im sure. A little bit of survivors guilt if thats the right term. It was referred to in a statement for those still left behind. Any hostage deal like this, and they are, in effect, hostages as you were involved in an exchange. This one involves not just releasing iranians from u. S. Imprisoned but 6 billion. You spoke to brett mcgurk, the state Department Official responsible for these. He said in these, funds are used to may vendors for humanitarian goods. No funds whatsoever are going to iran specifically. Are you confident the u. S. Can enforce the restrictions around the money involved in this trade . I think so. And i think the truth is, accounts like the ones that was housed in south korea has been moved to qatar today. Have existed for several years, during the trump administration, with very little oversight, one of those accounts was spent down to zero. So mechanisms that are in place now are actually a lot stronger than the ones that had existed previously. At the same time, this idea of concessions for hostagetaking, i understand that its a controversial one. And i think something that many people question. I would caution folks to think about it in those terms. We shouldnt be thinking about this terms of what will the u. S. Government, what are our allies doing to prevent this kind of behavior. I dont think iran, russia china need any more incentives than they already have to take hostages. The truth is theres really nothing standing in their way. Its becoming more common, Siamak Namazi referred to that in his statement. In the past 40 years the Iranian Regime has engaged in the nasty game of commercizing their freedom. In the evin prison, the notorious prison where you and others were held is dystopian of hostages. Given the fact that this is be ing more common. And the perception is, with evidence, that iran, russia and china take prisoners so that they can set up an exchange like 00 this, get something in return, what is to stop it . What is to stop it . What Policy Changes are necessary . I think you have to look at the motivations for each of the governments that do this. And some of the hostagetakings, even by a government, you know, like iran, whether its u. S. National, british national, canadian some other european national, they take them for different reasons. You really have to look at the motivations and develop the mechanisms that respond to the motivations. Making it costlier than beneficial for them. Youre driving up the costs of doing this but targeting the officials involved in what is really organized crime. Thats why the Biden Administration imposed new sanctions in the wake of this deal including on the former president mahmoud ahmadinejad. Jason rezaian, were glad youve been free for some sometime. Thanks for joining us today. Good to see you, jim, thanks. Boris. The legal drama continues in the Georgia Election subversion case. A judge will soon decide whether Jeffrey Clark can move his case to federal court. The doj official was indicted on his efforts to help then donald trump overturn the election in the peach state. His legal team said he was acting on behalf of the federal government. Lets go to atlanta where Katelyn Polantz is outside the courthouse. This is the same judge that rejected mark meadows bid to get to federal government court. So whats different about Jeffrey Clarks case . Reporter well, boris, he is looking at a different question here today, one that has a lot of importance for the protection around the federal government. Or the ability of the state to bring this case against someone like Jeffrey Clark or even against donald trump himself. His question is can a State Prosecutor reach inside the federal government and determine that there were things that may have happened inside one of those agencies, in this case, with clark. The Justice Department, that the state says was illegal. And they say that what Jeffrey Clark was doing, it was not part of his job at all. He wanted to use the Justice Department to make false statements to the state of georgia. And within seconds of voicing this interest was told, no, youre not allowed to do that and kept bringing it up. So, that is the big question here. Were these even actions of the federal government that Jeffrey Clark was taking after the election on behalf of donald trump when he was working within that department to try to give air to these ideas of election fraud. Now Jeffrey Clark, he wasnt here in court, but his lawyer Harry Mcdougal was arguing to the judge quite extensively about this, one of the things there wasnt even yoda of his actions would be possible if he wasnt a federal official. Everything that clark did after the election, his lawyer said was part of his job, under his duties. But he also said that trump was the person that gave him some authority to be able to do these sorts of things. Now, prosecutors say there wasnt any authority that trump had there. And so if the judge comes back when he does rule on this, if he comes in and weighs in on that, trumps authority here, too, thats going to be a big piece in this case for donald trump as well as Jeffrey Clark. Katelyn polantz, live outside the federal courthouse in georgia. Boris brianna. Abortion is front and center on the Campaign Trail after former President Trump credited for creating the Supreme Court that overturned roe v. Wade criticized ron desantis for the sixweek abortion ban that he signed as floridas governor. De sanctis is willing to sign a five week and sixweek ban. Do you support that . I think what he did is a terrible thing and terrible mistake. So, as trump takes a huge lead over all other republicans in the polls and makes a play for The General Election audience former Vice President mike spence slamming him for not being conservative enough on abortion. I think weve come to a republican time for choosing. And when donald trump ran for president in 2016, he promised to govern as a conservative. For four years we did govern as conservatives. But today, donald trump makes no such promise. Hes embracing the politics of appeasement only the world stage, walking away from the worldless leader in the free world. And he wants to marginalize the right to life. Joining us now is cnn political director david chalian. David, trumps support in 2016 from conservatives from evangelical voters really focused on gaining a conservative majority on the Supreme Court to overturn roe. He got that, that court then overturned roe during the Biden Administration. Can he approach this issue with a general election strategy, without turning off the Republican Base . What do the polls tell us . Well, were going to find out is the answer to your question. Youll recall right after the 2022 midterms, brianna, donald trump sort of played political analyst and believed some of his partys problems in not achieving some of the expected gains was because of their stance on Abortion Rights or lack thereof, in a postwar world. Heed mely got backlashed from the prolife community, activist part of the base inside the Republican Party. And what youve seen since is donald trump trying to navigate his way through. Agency you noted, sort of focus more on a general election message which he hasnt really landed on here, versus just playing primary politics. If you look at a poll in the summer, the New York Times Siena College had on his issue, you see that republicans are supportive of a federal 15week ban. 58 of likely primary voting republicans supported a sixweek ban in a state, as ron desantis did, which donald trump just said was a terrible mistake yesterday. 60 of republican primary voters, there support that. So it is trying to clearly, you see in the former president , you see with nikki haley perhaps, navigating a position that is more about having longevity in a general election context then just the shortterm appeal to the base in a republican primary. I do like to go down memory lane with you. Considering what trump is saying here, lets rewinds a little to 2016, when he was speaking about abortion law and whether women who get them should be punished. This president ial election is going to be very important because when you say whats the law, nobody knows what the law is going to be depends on who gets elected. Somebody is going to appoint conservative judges and liberal judges. Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no . The answer is there has to be some form of punishment. For the woman . Yeah, there has to be some form. He backpedalled on that thats not the consi servative antiapproach there. He do talk about punishing doctors or accomplices. But trump, again, he weathered that fine. He seems to wiggle out of these moments that maybe tick some people off, david. You are right. He walked that back really l rather quickly after there was a lot of sound and fury in that answer in that town hall back in 2016. You also note that in the Meet The Press interview he did this weekend, he, again, very firmly stood in support of exceptions, in the cases of rape. Incest, life of the mother. Wanting he believes you must have exceptions in place. And that has not always been the republican platform. The Republican Party platform. And yet, that is where donald trump is here. And many republicans are, for including those exceptions. But he understands, as he did at that time, in the immediate aftermath of the 2016 town hall. This is an issue, after you wipe away 50 years of precedent of roe versus wade, you now have to grapple with how you move forward in a postroe world. And not able to go down that way as he sees the path forward issue. I want to ask you about a new poll, a Bleak Outlook on how voters look at president biden. 54 think hell finish a second term reelected. 34 here. Thats got to be alarming for folks in his campaign. Yeah, i mean i feel like every day now theres another poll about concerns that voters are expressing about joe bidens stamina or fortitude to finish out a second term. Hes already the oldest person serving in the job. We see the real concern, unprompted, just asking people open ended what is your greatest concern over his candidacy. Overwhelmingly people say his age. And a. , they say experience and wisdom comes with age. B. , theyre doing this Advertising Campaign trying to show him on these foreign trips like the trip to ukraine, what have you, that he does have the stamina and fortitude. But this is something hes going to have to show every day from now through election next year. One thing we know is absolutely true, he wont be getting younger during that process, berg berg brianna. That absolutely true no matter how hard we try. Congress is running outside of time to reach a deal to fund the government, yet, republicans are struggling to reach a deal even among themselves. Were live on capitol hill with the pressure that Kevin Mccarthy is now facing. Plus, day four of the auto workers strike, are they any closer to a deal . Later, as covid cases go up, some are fed up with home test kits. 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