Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201808

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin August 1, 2018 19:00:00

To an end as he stated many times. We look forward to that happening. The president is not obstructing, hes fighting back. The president is stating his opinion. Hes stating it clearly. Hes certainly expressing the frustration he has with the level of corruption that weve seen from people like jim comey, peter strzok, andrew mccabe, theres a reason the president is angry. Frankly, most of america is angry as well. Theres no reason he shouldnt be able to voice that opinion. Once again as i stated earlier, the president stating his opinion. Its not an order. Hes been Crystal Clear how he feels about this investigation from the beginning. You said a moment ago the investigation itself is corrupt. The mueller investigation, you mentioned comey and strzok. The entire investigation based off dirty, discredited dossier that was paid for by an opposing campaign. The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. At a public rally and yet people trying to yell over and defending them from doing their jobs and yelling their network sucks on live tv. Do you support that or not. We certainly support free will do of the press, we also support Freedom Of Speech and we think those things go hand in hand. Whats she saying there, kaitlan . She took an interesting tactic, brooke, blaming the media saying they report too much on National Security interest and reveal too much intelligence sometimes, which is an interesting approach that had nothing to do with what was happening at that rally last night. I think the reason the white house was asked this question was not simply because the crowd at the president s rally was championing this, it happened when the president was a candidate. Of course sarah is right, they do have free speech to say whatever they want. The point of this is the president himself retweeted a video of those supporters of his chanting at jim acosta saying that. Thats why the white house is getting the questions. Its not simply that it happened but the president retweeted it and seemed to endorse it happened on his own twitter feed where the white house says hes expressing his opinions. Jeff, you were in the room. When that happened, what was the reaction in the room . The reaction, Sarah Sanders said on the one hand, yes, the white house does not endorse any of that. As kaitlan said, thats not actually true. Actually the defense of this, going back to how she says the press needs to act responsibly. No question that is accurate. But then she brought up a debunked, absolutely false statement really from more than a decade ago about a Cell Phone Conversation of Osama Bin Laden being reported on. It was reported at the time, that was debunked literally a decade ago. Sarah sanders was reading that from the podium as a fact using it as an example of how she says the press is not responsible with National Security measures. That was their prepared response to something that happened last night, going back decades ago to something that has been debunked. The reality is the white house has done very little to push back on the violence atri ralli and conversations atriali s at. The majority of people are interesting, kind and courteous. There are always a number of people who are chanting slogans like this. That certainly gets attention. But the white house drew itself into this, as kaitlan said, because the president endorsed it. Brooke. Jeff and kaitlan, thank you very much. Back to the president s tweet this morning on sessions and questions of obstruction, with me harry litman, former u. S. Attorney, Deputy Assistant attorney and cnn National Security analyst and former fbi special agent. Great to have both of you on. Harry, let me start with you, youve got it, on this tweet where you essentially have the president ordering his own Attorney General to end the investigation into himself and campaign and russian interference that already clearly produced dozens of Concrete Results not to mention the New York Times last week broke the story that the personal counsel is looking into trumps tweets into their wide ranging obstruction inquiry. Do you think, sir, on the face of it, is the tweet Obstruction Of Justice . You know, on the face is one thing, but the basic question about whether its strong evidence of obstruction, is it a command or kind of suggestion. Man, its a mighty thin distinction. He uses the word should. But he says right now it is staining our country. Its a rigged witch hunt. I think if i were in the oval office and hearing the president of the United States use these words, i would take it as an order. By the way, order or not, its still solid evidence of obstruction. The big we is going to be, is he trying to shut down the probe and why. Yeah, it certainly doesnt help him. The times does report it. But he should have known this from his lawyers months ago. Each and every one of these tweets is totally admissible. Its not simply the individual ones. As you put them all up against one another and follow the sequence, it really spells out someone who is ordering this probe to be shut down. Asha, you heard Sarah Sanders say, no, no, no, this wasnt an order. This was trumps opinion. Hes simply expressing his frustration. You have the president s attorney then soon after, Rudy Giuliani, saying, no, this was his First Amendment right of free speech. To harrys point he said should, didnt say must. But arent these tweets Official Samts from the white house . How do you read this. Yes, they have been construed as official tweets. We know, for example, Travel Ban Litigation his tweets were used as evidence of what could have been his intent in promulgating that. Brooke, i just want to point out the irony, when hes stating these things and Freedom Of Speech but i think it was only a week ago he started to strip high National Security officials of Security Clearances for expressing their opinions. Right. One thing i just want what i see in addition to what harry said about the pattern of obstruction, hes clearly feeling heat. It could be for the manafort trial and what hes afraid will come out. Lets remember mueller that indicted 25 russian nationals and 3 russian companies. That cant make putin very happy. This is starting to uncover, embarrass and expose their operations here. I have to wonder in that private meeting oneonone, whether he has pressure coming from another direction that we dont know about to try to get rid of this investigation. Harry, just going along with this tweet and i want to move onto manafort, if trump made this request in private, this order or whatever you want to call it in private, Wouldnt Mueller then be like green light, interview witnesses, who was in the room just as he has for comey and conversations around michael flynn. Wouldnt that be similar . Completely. So thats right. You would go through and ask how would a reasonable person have construed this kind of eruption from the president and especially the giuliani statement its just First Amendment is a real nons. E. S r sequitur. Its just speed. How would you take it, et cetera. Its right flat out in front of us. I dont think it takes much of a strong inference to say trump is trying to issue an order here. The point you make is good, sessions is recused to either a bizarre order to try to carry out. Rod rosenstein, leads you to wonder, does he understand that. The other piece you didnt hear from russia today, not only did russia attack and interfere in the u. S. Elections in 2016, they are still doing so into the midterms this november. So asha, even if this wasnt an order, why would this president why would the white house want this whole investigation to be shut down because of russia currently . Thats the question. Once again, these are going mueller is equally going after russians as much as links potentially between the campaign. If the president was being sincere when he stood walked back his walk. I cant remember where we are in the walk backs to the walk back, he believes the assessment that russia interfered in our election, this cannot be a witch hunt. This is finding the people responsible for that Election Interference and that cyber attack. So you know, its trying to have it both ways and very puzzling. Asha and harry, thank you so much. Great, great point. Thank you both on that. 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The prosecutor does not want to wait to put in evidence. You never know whats going to happen during a trial. No, your honor, lets let this Witness Move Documents then they are in evidence and you can do what you want with them. It may have been more games manship and to try to throw the defense off saying this is all mr. Gates is doing. The other development, just ran through Fancy Ostrich jacket, watch, clothes, apparently the prosecution wanted to show these photos of these lavish items to the jurors and the judge said no. The judge said specifically plp manafort is not on trial for having a lavish lifestyle. Why would the judge make that call. First the prosecutors are trying to paint the details, get out their story. They wanted to get out onthe narrative this guy was funding his lifestyle with money he didnt declare income taxes for. They wanted to show the jurors this isnt a little amount of money, serious amounts to buy big things, fancy clothes, clothes that most people on the jury dont buy and fancy cars. Which would have potentially resonated with the jurors and the prosecutor wanted that. The judge is trying to say, were not going to convict someone simply because they are wealthy and how they spend their wealth. It has to be they lied to the irs and lied to the banks. Thats the only crime there. Each side is fighting to tell their narrative right now and the prosecutors want to say ostrich jacket every time every day until closing because that says, hey, thats a person who knows how much money they have. Hes not being duped by his assistant, rick gates. Apparently they arent allowed to say the word oligarch. Its a hard one to pronounce. Rich, rich russians. Last question. Do you think in the end Paul Manafort will testify, take the stand. Very unlikely. Most Defense Attorneys caution against that at every turn. Its very risky, very hard not to get caught in some type of inconsistency and really not necessarily sure theres much upside. Sarah coyne, thanks. Thanks for having me. A girl that survived the plane crash and pulled out her phone and started rolling. This is her video of the aftermath. Well talk to her and an expert about what went wrong but how 103 people survived it. Him and believe he may be suicidal. The doctor was shot while cycling to work on july 20th. And now to this story here out of mexico where its being called a kind of miracle. Aeromexico jet crashes and burns near the airport. When you look at these pictures, somehow all 103 people on board managed to survive. Watch as a passengers records the moment. This is strong wind gusts, brought down this twinengine jet moments after takeoff. Can we say how extraordinary this is, when you see this plane make this nosedive, crash, full fire and everyone on board survived. You know, its actually getting to be more typical, more the rule than the exception. There have been many recent plane crashes, for example air france in toronto, singapore, in taiw taiwan, asiana, more survived than not. Crasheses improved to help people survive the crash. Before then you think no one survived a crash. Not so anymore. Federal Aviation Association said over 80 of accidents no one dies. Incredible. Its incredible. What happened . Well, i think if given this tape, often passenger Cell Phone Recordings can be extremely helpful in investigations, and it will be on the black box but the weather played a role. So many have wind shear, detection, these microbursts are so powerful they can literally drive a plane into the ground. A lot of the study stemmed from Delta Air Lines flight 191 which crashed in dallas. Tomorrow will be the 33rd anniversary of it, august 2nd, 1985. There aind shear, microburst, drove a plane into the ground. Its important to know this, not only can it put a plane in the ground. Excuse me were going to trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. I said it just yesterday on fox that we believe that the investigation should be brought to a close. We think they are at the end of it. They should render their report, put up i guess if we were playing poker, were not, Put Up Or Shut up. We have everything to believe they dont have anything. The president has done anything wrong. They dont have any evidence he did anything wrong. They have evidence up this alley and that alley, chasing things about cohen. We found out t scl. Week before that T Horo Report Cast Doubt on the legitimacy of the Clinton Investigation and in particular this one. Although in the Clintonvestig Hy were biased but no effects of bias. In this investigation they ren. Thats still investigated. They had such a severe bias they shouldnt hav been involved in it. I dont know what the consequences lawyer, one of the consequences would be youre going to attack the legitimacy of the investigation. The Attorney General see this as a directive . No, it isnt at all. As we said immediately, its an opinion. He used a medium he uses for opinions, twitter. One of the good things about using that, hes established a clear sort of practice now that he expresses his opinions on twitter. He used the word should, he didnt use the word must. There was no president ial directive to follow it. He didnt direct him to do it and hes not going to direct him to do it. Is he still interested in meeting with mueller . Hes always been interested in testifying. Its us, meaning the team of lawyers, including me, that have the most reservations about that. As lawyers, i dont know, you all watch television. I dont know if you find a lawyer on television that ever thinks their client should testify. Why should we believe that, though . Everything he says indicates the opposite, he doesnt want to . Really . I havent heard him say that. Ive heard him say i want to be interviewed if my lawyers can reach an agreement on what the ground rules will be. Weve had a hard time doing that. Were still im not going to give you a lot of hope its going to happen. Were still negotiating. We havent stopped negotiating. The most recent letter, they sent us a proposal. We responded

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