Clowns that are negotiating right now . Plus trump doubling down on his attacks on Hillary Clinton. She was the original birther. She was the one that started that whole thing. Hillary is a birther. By the way, dont switch your votes to hillary, please. Tonight ill tell what you Hillary Clinton said to me when i asked her about those accusations. Thats all a little bit later on. Lets begin with a very busy day on the campaign trail. The latest gop poll, this one from fox news, it has donald trump on top at 26 , followed by ben carson at 18 , Carly Fiorina and marco rubio neck and neck, 9 . Meanwhile, donald trump touted another poll on the campaign trail today. Here it is. Interestingly a poll came out and this is the second one i had, the shock poll. This just came out, trump receives 25 of the black vote in general election. [ laughter ] let me see that. Cnn sara murray live for us now. Trump is attacking their poll coverage but it good news for him, isnt it . Reporter it is good news for him. One thing we know is he reads everything and watches everything. If there is somebody criticizing him, he takes that very personally. Thats what were seeing now with the latest feud in fox. Weve seen that with plenty of other media outlets. He watches everything, don. We all know he is obsessed with polling, with the polls. He brings them up at every single stop. More than once today he touted support about africanamericans. What is the reality there, sarah . I think the reality is not as rosie as donald trump would lead to you believe. When you look at our cnnorc poll, it shows only 13 of nonwhite voters have a favorable impression of donald trump compared to 74 of nonwhite voters who have an unfavorable impression. He likes to pick very specific polls and tout those. You see from our numbers it just doesnt hold up. Sarah, supporters love that he is unscripted but hes made some of his points so often, does it sound like a stump speech to you . I do think its kind of like seeing Chris Christie for the first time, right . You see him and hes very blunt and he says hes very plain spoken. Donald trump is like that, too, but he certainly recycles a lot of the same lines. The one thingly say did donald trump and he said this on the stump is he knows his speeches get a lot of attention so he tries to tweak them a little bit so they change slightly day to day. I think we saw that today when he launched a new attack against donald trump. Marco rubio questioned donald trump whether hes ready to be commander in chief. When you question donald trump, he hits back hard. He did that calling rubio a lightweight against various attacks he lunched against marco rubio today. I want to bring in mr. Frank rich, writer at large for new you saw the poll. What do you think of that . You have more than 50 of the Republican Party that doesnt want the real politicians. Also, i think the story we just cant ignore is really the collapse is jeb bush. Hes never been strong and now hes behind ted cruz. Granted its just one poll but everyone had been looking to him to be the establishment american to head off the madness of donald trump and hes not even registering. My new York Magazine arrived at my door with donald trump wearing a wig. Its called donald trump is saving our democracy. Explain what you mean by that. What i mean is i dont think theres a chance that donald trump is going to become president. There is some chance he could be the republican nominee but his sort of bigotry, his bullying, his absurdity is kind of exposing the absurdity of the whole process. Hes making the republicans make bad, hes even making Hillary Clinton look bad. Hes decisive. Hillary clinton couldnt pick her favorite ice cream flavor at an ice cream stand in New Hampshire. Talking about that wrecking ball. You said far from being a threat to democracy or freak show unworthy of coverage, it matters because its taking a muchneeded wrecking ball to some of what has made our sterile politics and dysfunctional government as bankrupt as Donald TrumpsAtlantic City casinos. Is that a backhanded compliment . He doesnt have a huge group of consultants. He is blow dried but his speech isnt blow dried. Hes not using the system of everything being scripted, politically correct. As someone said, hes like the Charlie Sheen of politics. His critics are saying hes not a real republican. The fact is that some of his most controversial views like repealing birth right citizenship are supported by many republicans, if not most republicans. The birther thing, which is horrible, he didnt invent it. Thats been going on in the Republican Party for years before he even started talking about it. So for people to say hes not a real republican, he has a lot of views of the republican base. He just says them out loud instead of encoding them and making this many sound nice. And he doesnt care. Its the way he says it. Hes uses the dreaded term anchor babies and then jeb bush is defending anchor babies. Let listen to donald trump on the campaign trail today. Jeb bush was the governor and marco will never run because of respect for his mentor. And i figured the same thing because im a very loyal person. I wouldnt have done it ever. I think its very disloyal. So jeb bush was his mentor. Im saying hes not going to run. He announced hes not going to run because im ambitious, i have better hair than he does. And hillary who has become so shrill, you know the world shrill . You look at carly, her election, an election that should have been won against barbara boxer, she ended up losing in a landslide once it was revealed how badly she did with hewlett packard. We dont even get our prisoners back. We have four prisoners over there and they dont even ask them. They said we cant do that because we dont want to complicate the deal. Think of that. Youd walk in by the way, who would you rather have negotiating, trump or those clowns that are negotiating right now, okay . Then i get these lightweights like rubio. He gets up and says, well, dr donald trump didnt talk about foreign policy. Romney should have won the last election to him. Something happened to him, he choked. Like a golfer on the 18th hole, he cant sink the putt, ah, ah, ah. He spends a lot of time insulting people and yet it doesnt hurt him in the polls. In fact it, helps him. People say hes being honest, even if hes bullying, even if its tasteless. Theyre sick of people sounding like pollsters. One person benefiting is dr. Ben carson, not necessarily he wouldnt support a muslim as president of the United States. He said after that comment money is pouring in. Why is he benefiting from that . There is a racist bigoted part of the United States. The republican primary electorate is 80 20 on our side on these antimuslim comments. What do people see in him . Hes a minority, an africanamerican. I dont get it. Hes a devout christian and youre saying theres a racist element out there. He is a black man. He a black man and theres been republican support for other black candidates, herman cain the last time. I think muslims are the new target for this kind of racism. Muslim is the new black. Governor Mike Huckabee said this about president obama as he welcomed the pope. Watch. Im less concerned about what faith a person has. Im more concerned about the authenticity of their faith and how that plays now the their policies. Im also concerned about a guy who believes hes a christian and pretends to be and says he is but then does things that makes it very difficult for people to practice their christian faith. This is another form of bigotry. This is homophobia. This is an encoded way of saying we dont like obama because he supports a Supreme Court decision that a person of faith like kim davis violated and we should therefore support people who break the law of the land. Thats what thats about. Its a dog whistle about that. I thought there was a separation of church and state that you put the constitution above what you believe that your personal faith may be and you dont question someone elses face. Thats exactly right. And also if you have a government job as kim davis did and you dont follow the law, you can quit the job. Nothing forcing you to keep that job. Will trump be the nominee . Probably not but we cant rule it out. All right. Interesting campaign season. Thanks frank rich, New York Times new York Magazine. I say that all the time. Coming up, donald trump blasting Hillary Clinton today as what he calls the original birther. Wait until you hear what she tells me about that. Plus, the man . Charge of keeping the pope safe. 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With donald trump and with ben carson over and over again saying these things about muslims, about the president s birth place, this week people have been saying on air here and on cnn and ive been reporting it here that you were the person behind the whole birther thing, and that you were the senator at the time, president elect, actually confronted but that. Did you or your Campaign Start the whole birther thing . Did you have a confrontation with the president . No. That is so ludicrous, don. Honestly, i believe first of all, it totally untrue. And secondly, the president and i have never had any kind of confrontation like that. This is such a bad example of whats wrong of instantaneous reactions and americans getting all worked up and people feeding prejudice and paranoia like d m donald trump. All of us have to stand against it. I have been blamed for nearly everything. That was a new one to me. But ill just keep going and talking about what i want to do to get incomes rising and making College Affordable and making all of the positive changes that we have to be worried about. Lanny davis, White House Special Council and contributor to the hill. Whats the truth . This is akin to a he said she said situation. Hillary clinton said she didnt say it and her deer tractors say she did. Its likely well never know the full truth. In the president ial race, there was bit are bad blood between the clinton and obama campaigns. The cochair, who happens to be the senator of senator Jeanne Shaheen also wondered if obama had once sold drugs. Prior to the comment, a volunteer had to step down from the Clinton Campaign after the coordinator sent an email saying obama was a muslim. Then there was a photo of obama in clothing worn by muslims that appeared on the drudge report in february of 2008. That was attributed to Clinton Campaign sources. The Clinton Campaign denied being a source of the photograph and it was never determined that the campaign was the source it have. Clinton did no favors to herself when she was asked during a 60 minutes interview in 2008 if she thought senator obama was a muslim. You dont believe senator obama is a muslim . Of course not. I take senator obama at his word that hes a muslim. Are you . Said you take him at his word. You dont believe hes a muslim . No, no, theres nothing to base that on as far as i know. Those four words, as far as i know, caused many people to suggest that Hillary Clinton was leaving the door open on whether senator obama was a muslim. We cant say if it was an orchestrated effort by her campaign or by Hillary Clinton herself. Hillary clinton denied it today and her campaign has always denied it. Every single fact check that i have said and there have been a number, have said theres no evidence to say that Hillary Clinton or her campaign have anything to do with the birther rumor. And the rumors go back even before clinton ran for president. And they go way, way back when he first ran for state senate. But really the question on the table and what donald trump was trying to say today was he was trying to connect Hillary Clinton herself to spreading that rumor in 07 and 08 in her white house campaign. We do know some of her supporters did try to spread that rumor but that doesnt mean she was behind it or that she orchestrated it in any way. Charles, my question to you is why does he say at the end of his comments today that Hillary Clinton donald trump was the original birther and doesnt switch your votes for her. Does birtherism translate into votes . Obviously thats what hes certainly implying. But i think the key thing that mark just said is that if you have a he said she said sort of dispute going on here, which is sounds like we do, you dont want to get into that with donald trump because he will i dont think it is a he said she said. If there was any concrete evidence that Hillary Clinton had something to do with it, someone would have produced it by now and nothing has been produced that shows that Hillary Clinton officially had anything to do with it. Well, all of it is somewhat moot, i think, because donald trump himself has never made any apologies about being a birther and getting behind that whole movement in years past and hes never sort of shied away from that. That may be a great strike against him in a lot of peoples minds but i think a lot of people sort of give him credit or give him a wide bit of latitude on that, both because high sort of has been a very effective showman and entertainer, who does things to get a lot of attention. Hes very good at it. And he doesnt back away from things. He says stupid things sometimes or he says ins inpartfully and doesnt back down from it. So i think that he gets some great for that. Lanny, go ahead. Its not he said she said. Its false. The source goes back to a book what reggie love wrote. Thats where the source of this comes from. If you read what he wrote, he said that Hillary Clinton apologized for somebody in New Hampshire saying something about his book and she apologized. Then senator obama, according to reggie love, confronted her with, quote, rumors, rumors, that people in her campaign were spreading this muslim thing and she got very angry. Now she has definitively denied she ever did. Theres no evidence of that. Were talking about the master of the big lie, donald trump, against republicans. After he lies and attacks republicans and then retreats, he continues to lie again. Now hes using the big lie against Hillary Clinton and i only hope, i only hope that the republicans are foolish enough to take a man who only knows venom and prejudice and sexism and actually racism, what he said about mexicans and i gra s immigrants, i only hope the republicans nominate him because this country will never vote for anyone like him. The polls show that Hillary Clinton is still firmly in the lead over gerny sanders. Its a critical component if joe biden against in that can seriously impact Hillary Clintons race. I think shes making it very well known shes got the money that shes needs and is building up the endorsements she needs to stay in the lead. Just putting her feelers out there, joe biden might be getting the message to stay out. But, again, joe biden is saying the fact that we have the fbi investigation, the email story keeps popping up and hes looking at it saying im still in that 20 range, right . What happens if i do get in . Can i stir things up. 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