Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20170525 : v

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20170525

Working to shut down what could be possibly be a much wider Terror Network behind the attack. They raided locations and manchester wednesday carrying out controlled explosions in some cases, we believe to open up doorways and gain access. The 22yearold suspect who blew him up monday night authority says probably did not act alone and that is worrying. He had just returned to the uk after spending three weeks in libya. Now, the New York Times has publish photos claiming to show the aftermath of the bombing and they appear to have been taken by british authorities first on the scene just after the attack. They show if you look what could be a detonator, a battery, shrapnel and fragments of a backpack in which the bomb was placed. A spokes woman for the Greater Manchester police would not comment on the photo and has warned that leaks of potential evidence could undermine the investigations. British authorities here not happy that this leak happened in the United States. Meanwhile, the latest on the investigation itself. The brother of the suicide bomber was arrested in libya, accused of plotting a separate terrorist attack in tripoli. He says he and his brother were members of isis according to militia in that country. Cnns Clarissa Ward has our story. Reporter investigators say they do not believe the 22yearold british bomber salman abedi who blew himself up outside this concert hall monday killing 22 acted alone. I think it is very clear that this is a network that we are investigating. Reporter abedis brother was reportedly detain by a militia in libya which alleges he was plotting to launch his own terror attack in tripoli. The militia claims hashim abedi told them he and hi brother were part of isis. Sources tell cnn salman abedi had been in syria for several weeseveral for several weeks in libya. Police say he was known to both british and u. S. Intelligence officials and investigators are now trying to piece together whether abedi met with isis oral qaeda operatives or received terror training while abroad. They also want the know who he was in contact with here in england. Police continue to raid buildings across manchester. They say they have made arrests in connection with the bombing. In a frantic race to find anyone who may have helped abedi build his bomb or plot his attack. This extensive investigation is going on, and activity taking place across Greater Manchester as we speak. Reporter the Prime Minister has raised the Terror Threat to its highest level, critical, for the first time in a decade. Police have increased security at major sites across the country including at Buckingham Palace and st. Pauls cathedral and armed officers continue to patrol manchester. Clarissa ward, cnn, manchester. Well, we are watching visible patrols, certainly more military presence to guard these important landmarks. Cnns Erin Mclaughlin is at the hospital. Nina is outside 10 downing street in london. We know british authorities are unhappy about photos leak by some United States sources. Reporter yeah. Yesterday we saw home secretary say she was irritated at these leaks. You can probably imagine she is probably incan december enlt by now that weve seen the photos that the New York Times published overnight appearing to show forensic photos from the police, showing potentially what looked like a detonator, nuts and bolts on the floor. So that kind of shrapnel that would have injured people and caused these devastating injuries in this dirty bomb and fragments of what looked like a backpack that may have been worn by salman abedi in this attack. We have had the police come uj out with a strongly worded statement overnight saying this has potential to undermine what is an important, live and fastpaced investigation. To give you an idea how fast paced it is, hanna, as you said in the introduction weve had two more arrests made over the last couple of hours or so. That means in total we have eight people under detention, all of the men some outside of the country, including in libya, including the brother of salman abedi. What is important to try to piece together the network of this individual is to share information with countries like the United States because they will be relying on their intelligence in places like libya as well. So if they cant protect this information, it is a huge issue for the british authorities. You can bet it will come up in conversation with donald trump meets with the british Prime Minister, theresa may, later on today on the sidelines of their key nato meeting. Hanna. By the way, i want to get to erin right now with more on those people in the hospital, still very much going through a tough time, some even with still life threatening injuries. Tell us more, erin. Reporter thats right, hala. We are hearing more about the victims killed in this horrific attack, sons, daughters, parents, a sister perished in that explosion, and it includes a young couple, 17yearold chloe rugger forward and 19yearold liam curry. Their parents asking for the Manchester Police to tweet out a tribute. This is what their families want you to know about this young couple. They said on the night our daughter chloe died and our son liam died, their wings were ready but our hearts were not. They were perfect in every way for each other and were meant to be. They were beautiful inside and out, to ourselves and our families and they were inseparable. The statement goes on to say they lived to go to new places together and explore different cities. They wanted to be together forever, and now they are. Just heartbreaking, two of the 22 lives lost in this attack. Theres also, of course, the wound, some 64 individuals being treated across eight different hospitals in the manchester area including the one im standing in front of. 20 patients in critical care. Hala. Erin mclaughlin at one of the hospitals treating the wounded and nina de santos at 10 downing street. I want to give you background on the bomber. Salman abedi was 22 years old, he was born here in manchester and of libyan descent. He spent a few weeks in libya before the attack and a family friend says his father, in fact, took him and his younger brother to libya because they were getting into trouble in england. This is according to a source in libya. Now, that friend says salmans father took his sons passports when they arrived and only gave them back, at least to salman because he thought his son was going to mecca for the smaller pilgrimage. Salman abedi returned to england instead, and as we now know carried out the attack just three days later. [speaking foreign language]. Translator at the beginning one of the girls was on the internet and saw on the news that salman is a suspect of the explosion in manchester. So i went on the internet and watched bbc world and started following the news. They said he was only a suspect and i kept waiting for news until morning. At 1 00 p. M. I saw the news that the suspect is salman abedi. I was not expecting this to happen and didnt know anything about this matter because he didnt say he was going to manchester and staying there. He said he was going to hombra and he got a special offer from manchester and he would go to hombra from there. Reporter all right. Carlton king is a former Scotland Yard special branch and mi6 officer and the author of an incredible story of a british agent. We are getting more sad news of confirmation of a death, this time a 14yearold, alied mclloyd, the family of that young girl releasing that statement. Yeah, im very sorry. Once again, the target, the target obviously young people. Lets talk a little bit about the fact that we think that sal man abedi and his brother and possibly a Wider Network in this country all plan this attack. What do you make of that . Yeah, thats possible. As it stands now, obviously im no amonger a part of those organizations so i dont have the latest intelligence. That said, obviously i wouldnt give the latest intelligence to undermine the operation, but it could well be the case. The situation is quite simple in a sense, that what you have are angry individuals, some of them that feel in some way, shape or means theyre not tied to the United Kingdom but seek Something Else to belong to. His father, as we know, was already involved in such activities against the libyan state which is, if you will, a cover all for the gee hauledy movement as well. Yeah, but you have a lot of opponents of the state not terrorists. Very true. This is a big leap to me. What happens is some of the people most dead indicated to the process, which dont show themselves in the form of actual violent terrorism. But it is a move from that street activity sometimes, from other times of political activity into terrorism. Now, obviously with the islamic perspective to that, that move is much easier into activity that makes violence more, lets say, possible because there is this action happening at the present time. I know intelligence agencies in the uk have done a great job in the last few years of avoiding and defusing some of these plots. However, in this case if it is as extensive as we think it might be, in other words we have two brothers, one in libya, one in the uk, possibly a bomb maker still in this country because that bomb was sophisticated, so they really missed this one, didnt they . This is why i started off as i answered. Because what im trying to do is give you the width of the problem. There are a lot of people who feel themselves alienated from the state. Some may be sympathizers, some may think what is happening in the middle east is wrong, what is happening over parts of the arab world is wrong, we dont like British Foreign policy. Not all of them, the vast majority dont have violent activity. However, if you involve yourselves in such things and dont communicate openly, it is difficult to find out who is involved and going that step further. You are looking at a lot of individuals who may be so orientated but who dont make the jump. Who is going to make the jump and when do you stop looking at the individual . Thats the Million Dollar question, isnt it . Exactly. It is not a science, it is an art. You are trying to look at many, many people. It is a very complex operation, this, right from the beginning. So prior to the bomb going off or prior to the knife being pushed or prior to the van being driven into individuals, then you have to look at parts of the community that might involve themselves, but how do you do that . We have laws in this country that say that you cant observe people for no reason. We have a collection laws in terms of Network Intelligence that restricts activities, quite rightly because Civil Liberties are important. We have to know who to target to know who is doing what. It always will be the big question and the big challenge for authorities, who do we place under surveillance 24 7, we are talking 7, 10 individuals of the government to do that zbloo p. Way more. Carlton king, we appreciate your time and expertise. Thanks for joining us. We will have more from manchester as i mentioned later this hour. Back to you, john and isha in l. A. More from manchester shortly, but first, accused of attacking a reporter the night before the election. 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According to jacob and witnesses it started with a question about the Republican Health care plan. There are no images but jacobs says says he has the audio and here it is. The cbo core, because you know youve been waiting to make your we will talk with it. Speak with shane, please. Im sick and tired of you guys. The last time you came here you did the same thick, get the out of here. Get the out of here. Jesus. Yes, and you just broke my glasses. The last guy did the same thing. You just body slammed me and broke my glasses. Get the out of here. I would also like to tell the police. Can i get your guys names. Hey, you got to leave. In the past hour the newspaper rescinded its sport for him, saying his attack on the reporter was bizarre. A second paper pull edden dorsment. Republican consultant john thomas are with us now. It is bizarre. Dave, to you first, when you hear that, what goes through your mind . A couple of things. Number one, last time i checked we werent in a third world country. Number two, this vicious attack i think under scores the fact this guy really ought to get out of the race. I mean this is not wrestle mania, for crying out loud. It is a little too late to get out of the race. You know, we have mere hours, and lets not forget most people think that over about 80 of the ballot also have already been cast. Right. So youre looking at a small sliver of the electorate, and the latest polling i saw had him with almost a 14 point lead going to election day. My hunch is he still pulls it out. It would make for an awkward time being inaugurated with this hanging over his held. You talk about most of the votes being cast already, 7 in 10 have voted, lets very quickly read the full statement from Billings Gazette. While there are questions left unanswered by gop house hopeful altercation with guardian ben jacobs, investigations and records are shocking, disturbing and without precedent. Thats why the Billings Gazette is doing something without precedent. We are rescinding our endorsement of him. We are seeing democrats running ads about this on facebook. As they should. Sure, but john doesnt think it is a game changer but does it have an impact maybe not in montana but beyond . I think so. If you read the tea leaves, we had a win for democrats in New Hampshire and new york, they were two flips from red to blue. You are seeing democrats pick up steam and momentum. This kansas, democrats came a lot closer. The john os awe race in georgia we almost clinched the 50 threshold to avoid a run off. We clearly have momentum and if this race is a nail biter and we come within striking of winning the seat it could be the beginning yeah, trump carried by 20 points. I dont know now it is to the detriment of democrats if for some reason the democrat wins, doesnt know how you pin it on trump. We will get to it in a moment. But we have a statement from gianfortes campaign. This came out pretty soon after the event. Tonight as greg was giving a separate interview in a private office the guardians ben jacobs entered the Office Without permission be, aggressively shoved a reporter in his familiar and began asking badgering questions. Jacobs was asked to leave . As asked jacobs to lower the recorder he declined. He attempted to grab the phone. Pushing them both to the ground. It is unfortunate this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this scene at our campaign barbecue. John, the problem with this statement is theres no semblance to reality. This is not what happened, and as a Campaign Somebody that runs campaigns, you have the altercation, do you double down and blame the reporter. So theres the right thing to do, which would be ofand then theres the strategically best thing to do. Theyre taking the strategically best thing to do. What theyre doing is denying and trying to muddy the waters for another 12 or 20 hours until people cant sort out the truth, hoping they squeak across the finish line and settle it after that. Thats what republicans call at least in trump world love you, don alternative facts. Thank you. Enough said. Both sides do. Totally right, totally right. Lets listen to ben jacobs himself. He spoke to msnbc chris hayes. Listen to how he described the altercation. Went up and asked him about it and should have said, you know, tried to you know, talk to my communications person. I just followed up and said, you know, youve been talking about this, just wanted to get your response and then he should have said no, ive had enough and next thing i know im being body slammed and he you know, is on top of me for a second, my glasses are broken. It is the strangest the strangest moment in my entire life reporting. Dave, this was about a question. This was all over a question about health care, the Republican Health care plan and the score for the Congressional Budget Office which show 23 Million People without coverage over 10 years. It says a lot about Health Care Debate in this country . Yes, this is 2. 0, trump care 1. 0 had a 17 approval rating. This could be emblematic that he has a grudge with the reporter. He exposed the 250,000 the republican had invested in russian index fund of which was sanction by the u. S. Government. Swap hats for a second. You told us how the man in the hot seat, greg gianforte, how you would handle it. If you are his challenger and you see the spin, how do you respond . Well, i would let the news cycle do the talking. You dont want to lay it on too thick and look like youre seizing the moment. Lets make it big news, it is either going to do the trick or not at this point. It is too late to roll anymore tv ads. The electorate is going to get it or theyre not. What i would do is do a last run of like get out to vote. I would call my base if i were the democrats and say, we can do the

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