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CNNW New Day July 4, 2017

What theyre looking at is exactly how far they can reach with this missile. Now we just heard from the joint chiefs of staff here in south korea, they said that they are still analyzing data. At this point they dont accept that it is an icbm but they dont deny it either. Clearly a lot of work is going in right now, analyzing satellite data, the radar, trying to figure out exactly what the missile was. North korea say kim jongun signed the order himself. He was there at the test site and thought it was a great success. To give you the figures, the altitude was about 1700 miles high further and distance more than 570 miles and it flew for 39 minutes. According to north korea. The u. S. Pacific command had some different figures, a little earlier in the day. Their initial assessment was it wasnt an icbm. We havent had an update from them at this point but were certainly waiting to see what they say. Everyone in the region is very concerned and of course in the states as well. Back to you. Paula thank you very much. Almost immediately after the test President Trump criticized kim jongun on twitter and called on china to ramp up pressure against north korea as President Trump prepares for a trip to the g20 summit in germany where hell have a face to face meeting with Vladimir Putin. Suzanne malveaux is live from the white house with more. What do we expect, suzanne . Reporter good morning, alisyn. North korean aggression is testing the president and this administration putting a lot of pressure on him, all eyes are on him whether or not it escalates tension between the countries and at the same time were hearing from the president trying to really put more pressure on china to confront this growing threat. President trump defiant tweeting about kim jongun, does this guy have anything better to do with his life . Hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. Perhaps china will put a heavy move on north korea and end this nonsense once and for all. The president prodding china to do more to confront north korea, coming one day after a phone call with chinese president xi jinping. The white house saying in a statement that President Trump raised the growing threat of north koreas weapons program. The chinese offering a more critical take, noting that the u. S. chinese relationship is being affected by some negative factors. President trump issuing this stern warning on friday, after meeting with the president of south korea. The era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed, frankly, that patience is over. Reporter National Security adviser h. R. Mcmaster stating publicly the u. S. Updated its military options against pyongyang. We cant repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past. The president made clear to us that he will not accept a Nuclear Power in north korea. The president s posture towards china clearly changing in recent weeks. Trump appearing to lose faith in beijings willingness to take on north korea. I wish we would have a little more help with respect to north korea, from china, but that doesnt seem to be working out. Reporter trump warning in april that hes willing to take unilateral action if china does not do more to contain the threat. They have a diplomatic responsibility to exert much greater economic and diplomatic pressure on the regime. Reporter this growing tension coming as President Trump prepares to leave for the g20 summit this week in germany, where he is expected to sit down with president xi and the leaders of japan and south korea, two other countries the u. S. Considers essential to confronting kim jongun. And President Trumps meeting with president xi is just one of many high stakes meetings with World Leaders at the g20 summit. Well see the first facetoface meeting with russian president Vladimir Putin, highly anticipated and also with the german chancellor Angela Merkel, who famously did not get a handshake when she was here at the white house. She already said publicly she thought talks with trump would be difficult especially when it comes to climate change. It will be an interesting meeting. Thank you for teeing it up for us. Joining us to discuss all of this is errol louis, ron brownstein, who is debuting a new column today on cnn. Com called fault lines. Everyone should read that and colonel cedric leighton. Colonel, we heard President Trump there at a rally say i wish that china were doing more to help us with north korea but that doesnt seem to be working out. Is china out of the equation . No, i dont think so, alisyn. Theyre there forever because theyre north koreas prime benefactor. Everything commercial north korea does, everything military north korea does somehow theres a chinese connection to it. In the past the chinese were avid supporters of north korea. Now that relationship has cooled, but they have it in their interest to keep north korea as stable as possible, because they dont want any type of implosion in north korea, and they certainly dont want a german style reunification of the Korean Peninsula. Its in chinas interest to keep north korea where that is. If that means a few weapons tests here and there, they will basically allow those to happen. Colonel, make us behind the scenes with what military analysts are doing, trying to determine whether this was an intermediate range missile or intercontinental Ballistic Missile. How do they determine that and why is that distinction important . The distinction is important, john, because if its an intercontinental Ballistic Missile, what that means is that it can then affect territories way beyond east asia to include alaska potentially, the west coast of the United States, and put a lot of things at risk that otherwise would not be in danger. Intermediate range Ballistic Missile is still very dangerous, but it is less dangerous to the u. S. Homeland because it cant reach it, its a matter of range. When they do the analysis, theyre going to look at how far this missile flew, what kinds of test parameters there were, or if this test was instead of a test, really a demonstration, its less rigorous in terms of the science that went behind it. So what youre looking at here is a way in which they can actually figure out what the danger is, and theyre going to take as much of a sample of the atmosphere around the test to determine if it was potentially equipped with something that we dont like, like a Nuclear Warhead and certainly wasnt in this case, but those are the kinds of things that they look for, and they look for the possibility that it could be modified into something much greater than it currently is, and thats really what they want to examine and what they need to examine to protect u. S. And allied assets in the region and on the west coast of the u. S. So errol, the u. S. Response. President trump is not the type to just stand by idly and let this happen. He tweeted back in january before he officially took Office North Korea just stated its in the final stages of developing a Nuclear Weapon capable of reaching parts of the u. S. With wont happen what are President Trumps options . Its interesting. Every Nuclear Expert i talked to, this goes back years now said its not a question of if but when. It will, in fact happen, that sooner for later north korea will have nuclear capability, making diplomacy all the more important to try to figure out how to contain this, how to sort of manage this. What the colonel said is right. There is that hee assumption reflected in trumps statements its in chinas interests to make the problem go away. The opposite is true. China does not want to destabilize north korea. They dont want a humanitarian crisis of hundreds of thousands of people flooding across the border of a failed state. Statement they dont want a unified democratic korea on their border, that presents certain challenges to the communist system that they built up there. So the status quo is what china wants. For donald trump to try to go around that status quo using military options is almost unthinkable. They call it principle realism, well see how realistic this is. The New York Times is reporting the president is suggesting over the phone president xi of china the u. S. Might be willing to go it alone. If you read his statements he put out on twitter hes putting this ball in other countries courts. Hard to believe south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. Perhaps china will put a heavy move on north korea. Mixed message. There is a reason why victor cha, who is the head of the, advised george w. Bush in Asian Affairs in the white house, famously described north korea as the land of lousy options, a phrase that people still talk about a decade later because in fact, there are very limited options. On the one hand, people really across the spectrum say china is the nation with the most leverage on north korea, yet significant debate and doubt whether china s has the leverag to dissuade them moving forward on this program and whether in fact they want to. The context of all of this is the president s decision right when he took office to walk away from the transpacific partnership, which was the obama administrations kind of centerpiece of their pivot to asia, trying to build Stronger Economic relationships with the nations of asia, pointedly excluding china. Now we have walked away from that. China stepped into the void and is promoting its own free trade vision across the region, so you have just very dramatic cross currents. On the other hand, this may be one area where the president can find some Common Ground at the g20. He had been headed toward a turbulent meeting, Angela Merkel had been unusually pointed this week, last week in her comments saying isolationism and protectionism are no way to go forward but this is an issue, the north korean threat, that i think can unite many of the countries traditional allies in europe that have been skeptical of the initiatives of the trump administration. At the g20 summit how does this affect that when the president comes facetoface with the leaders . Hell be in poland before that and one of polands main concerns is the missile threat from russia so theres kind of an irony there and i think the poles are going to tell President Trump they need as much of a defense against russia as we want to build in east asia against the north koreans. We see odd duality coming out here when President Trump makes his trip to europe. I think what the g20 summit will do is it will basically showcase a bit of a unity between the u. S. And certainly its european allies, as well as japan and korea. The issue then will become with china and with russia, because both countries are going to be, both for historic reasons as well as current political reasons theyre going to be very reluctant to do anything that would upset the balance of power, which currently exists on the Korean Peninsula and in greater east asia. Ron this raises the stakes for what was already an exceptionally important g20 summit. There are a lot of different balls in the air, the president s first basetoface meeting with Vladimir Putin, the first meeting since the u. S. Pulled out of the paris climate agreement and the north Korean Missile threat. How do you think the United States is prepared for this, the Trump White House going in . As there always are, john, look, the first foreign trip the president took was one of the more kind of stable periods of his presidency until he got to europe, and met with our traditional allies, where there was much more tension than there was earlier in the trip, for example, in saudi arabia, where there was the french president or the german chancellor, and i do think that the contrast in vision is very clear. Angela merkel led into this meeting with a remarkable series of kind of explicit comments saying we are not on the same page about climate, we are not on the same page about isolationism and protectionism, uses those phrases so theres no confusion who shes talking about and theres plenty of disagreement. North korea is an area where essentially almost every nation in the world does not want to see this progress beyond a certain point. Even china wants the status quo, dont want it to advance. There may be an opportunity to build Common Ground. The lack of trust and personal relations and the sense this administration is leading the u. S. In a different direction to what europe has seen before has walked away from some of the efforts to knit together the nations of asia limits the ability of the president to wrangle together an international consensus. Ron, errol, colonel, thank you for being with us. There is global peace in one geographic location, the jersey beaches of course. Beaches are once again open for everyone in new jersey but governor Chris Christies private beach day is overshadowing the budget teal. What the governor is saying about it now, thats next. Award winning interface. Award winning design. Award winning engine. The volvo xc90. The most awarded luxury suv of the century. Visit your volvo dealer today and get up to 4,500 in allowances. [ rock music playing ] have fun with your replaced windows. Run away [ grunts ] leave him leave him [ music continues ] brick and mortar, what . [ music continues ] [ tires screech ] [ laughs ] [ doorbell rings ] when you bundle home and Auto Insurance with progressive, you get more than a big discount. Thats what you get for bundling home and auto jamie you get sneakygood coverage. Thanks. Were gonna live forever theres nothing more than my vacation. Me so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. Booking. Com gets it. 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Initially the governor said he didnt get any sun. Later his spokesman came out and clarified joking and saying well, look, he didnt get any sun because he was wearing a baseball cap. That joke lost on many people here in this state who are fed up with this governor to put it frankly. This governor basically last night came out and was defiant as ever. The way i took claudes question was hey, were you like laying out getting a tan today. That wasnt what i was doing and thats not what those pictures show. Sitting there with a baseball hat and shorts and a tshirt talking to my wife. If they flew the plane over the beach and i was sits next to a 25yearold blond in that beach chair next to me, thats a story. Well i think a lot of people here in this state would simply say pictures speak for themselves. John . Thank you very much, jason. I appreciate it. Jason didnt like the joke. Hmm. Some of the difficulty for Chris Christie. Joining us erroll louis and claude, and reporter for the star ledger in new jersey. Claude, not only did you have that exchange with the governor yesterday but really the one that set it all off was this one. Lets listen. No, it didnt claude, but go ahead. I didnt get any sun today. No. Theres no one at island beach state park. There are no lifeguards, no one to pick up the garbage, theres no one provides any Beach Service at island beach stage park. Next. Excuse me, next. Next. Im done. Were talking about the closure of government and youre talking about your tmz stuff. This is more, claude, than just an update on the vitamin d that the governor of new jersey has been getting. Its really representative of something greater hes facing in that state. Yes, this was an interesting exchange. Its interesting that he referenced tmz, because i used to work there years and years ago. I helped launch the website back about a decade ago, but hes famously captured brandishing an Ice Cream Cone on the boardwalk after he had gotten into a verbal altercation with the new jersey resident i think over pensions or something. You know, what is so stunning about the exchange i think for most folks in the state is that the governor came out there on the beach and his defense of all this has been this is our residence. We can go there. Were entitled to be here. I think the reaction is just because you can doesnt mean you should. When so many people are forced off that beach, the optics were just, they suggested a kind of cavalier attitude. My line of questioning simply to ask, are you able to swim on that beach . I really couldnt get the question off. I think they see kind of a defensive crouch in this whole thing. I think thats where the governor might be getting into trouble in terms of public opinion. Erroll, t

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