Nationally are up 40 . I hope these numbers jolt the American Public because its on a trajectory of getting worse and worse. Johnson and johnson is now the second drug maker to pause trials for the vaccine. Youd expect that in the process. You have to let the process play out. President trump and former Vice President joe biden hit the campaign trail. I went through it, now they say im immune. I feel so powerful. As long as donald trump is president , the more reckless he gets. Announcer this is new day with Alisyn Camerota and john berman. Welcome to to our viewers in the United States and all around the world, this is new day, its tuesday, october 13th. 6 00 here in new york. This morning, asking for trouble. Dr. Anthony fauci may be the most trusted man in america when it comes to battling the coronavirus pandemic says the president is asking for trouble this morning. The country, in some ways, asking for trouble. Cases are rising in 33 states. All the states you see there in red, including michigan, was just recorded highest number. 13 states have a Positivity Rate above 10 , that means the Community Transmission is accelerating. One of those states is florida asking for trouble. The president held his first rally there since himself becoming infected, dozens of others connected to the white house infected as well. But their health aside, what about these people . What about the thousands of people in attendance . No social distancing there. Few masks. Who is protecting them . In fact, if you ask, they tell us they would behave differently if the president only asked them to. Let me ask you this. If President Trump at the rally said everyone put on their masks. I would put it on. Well, there you go. Joe biden also heading to florida today. Hell hold a drivein Voter Mobilization event designed to keep supporters socially distanced. Three weeks now until the election and voter enthusiasm is high. Till zero days until the election. Its 21 days until voting is over, its not 21 days until election day. You make a good point. Look at these lines. 46 states in the District Of Columbia they can vote as of today. Those are high numbers, i would say. Youre making a good point. This is georgia, okay. Georgia yesterday set records on the first day of early voting, which john is very excited about. People waited in hours there sorry, in line for hours. Look at that. I cant stop staring at the screen. Thats voter enthusiasm for you right there. Okay, also breaking overnight, johnson and johnson announcing it is paugs their phase three vaccine trial because of something that happened with one of their volunteers. Lets go live to joe johns at the white house this morning. Hi, joe. Reporter hi alisyn. The president and joe biden back out on the campaign trail today with millions of ballots already cast in early voting. The president last night in florida giving a preview of what at least part of his message on the campaign trail might be for the next three weeks. Mocking efforts to control the spread of coronavirus while holding reelection events that could potentially increase it. Both president ial candidates on the campaign trail with just three weeks left until election day. President donald trump back on the campaign trail for the First Time Since his Coronavirus Diagnosis ten days earlier. Holding a rally in sanford, florida. At the rally, few masks and no social distancing. I went through it, now they say im immune. I feel so powerful. I walk into that ill walk in there, ill kiss everyone in that audience. Former Vice President joe biden called the president s actions risky. Just reckless personal conduct since his diagnosis as well as unconscionable. And the longer donald trump is president , the more reckless he gets. Reporter at the rally, trump spoke for a little over an hour and still does not seem to be taking the coronavirus seriously. Trump continuing to claim without evidence that hes now immune from the virus, criticizing lockdowns and mocking social distancing measures taken by bidens campaign. The cure cannot be worse. But if you dont feel good about it, but if you want to relax, stay. If you dont, you can get out. Dr. Sean conley said the president had tested negative for the coronavirus on consecutive days without saying which days. Meanwhile, bind set den set to n today to florida following a visit from the president whose state went to trump. Ohio matters. You elected me and barack in 2008 and 2012. Im asking for your support. The Biden Campaign heavily focussed in these last few weeks on flipping states trump won in the last election. Meanwhile, back in washington, trumps chief of staff mark meadows dismissing requests to keep his mask on while talking to rorts. Let me do this. Let me pull this away. Yeah, pull away. And then that way i can take this off to talk. Well im more than ten feet away. Im not well. Okay. Im not going to talk through a mask. Reporter and dr. Anthony fauci slamming the president s campaign for using his words without permission and out of context in the campaign ad saying he never publicly endorses any political candidates. Pauch which fauci said this what would happen if the president s campaign made another ad featuring his words . That would be outrageous if they do that. Actually ma that might come back to backfire on them. Reporter the president heads out for pennsylvania today. Joe biden is going to pennsylvania later this week as well. Meanwhile, we saw a touch of irony as the Trump Campaign started using information from the World Health Organization to explain why he thinks lockdowns are not a good idea. As you know, the president withdrew the United States from the World Health Organization earlier this year. Alisyn, back to you. There are many touches of irony, i would say, in the past few months. Thank you very much, joe. All right. Breaking overnight, johnson and johnson announcing it spaugs the is paugs their phase three because of an unexplained illness with one of their vaccines volunteers. What do we know about this, elizabeth . All we know is that something happened to one of these study participants. We dont know what. We dont know exactly what happened, but there was enough concern that this illness might, and i emphasize might, might be related to the vaccine. They have put the whole thing on hold. They nor tare not going to dose anybody. Nobody is going to get another shot in this trial until they figure out was it because of the vaccine or was it not. Lets take a look at a statement from johnson and johnson. They say serious adverse events, which is a fancy word for when someone gets sick, serious adverse events are not uncommon in clinical drooils triatrials number of serious adverse events can reasonably be expected to increase in trials involving large numbers of participants. Lets look at the status of where these vaccine trials are at in the United States. Johnson and johnson on pause as we just said. As tra zen necka also on pause, similar, participant got sick, theyre trying to figure that out, been on pause for more than a month. Moderna is still up and running, they started july 27th. Pfizer still up and running, started july 27th. Is the right thing to do. When a study person gets sick and you think it might be because of the vaccine, its normal to put it on pause. Alisyn. That is really interesting context. Thank you very much. Well be talking about that dport rest of the program. Meanwhile, the pandemic in the u. S. Is getting worse. 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Peter hotez, the dean of the National School of medicine at Baylor College of med sand the codirector of Childrens Hospital for vaccine director also a cnn correspondent. Dr. Hotez, you have a distinguished medical pedigree, but im not sure you even need your decades of experience and vast education to look at the rally we saw last night to know it is a bad idea. Right now the pandemic is on the rise in the United States. It is on the march. Its just undeniable whats the impact of holding an event like the president did . Yeah, john, we started at already a pretty high place. We went down to the lowest point late lately in Early September around 30, 35,000 new cases day, now were back up to 50,000 new cases a day. And its going to continue to rise. And its and this is the fall winter surge that everybody worried about, now its happening. And its happening especially up in northern midwest, the northern states are getting hit very hard, wisconsin, montana, the dakotas. But its going to be nationally soon enough. It may be worse in the north than in the south. This is not a time to be holding rallies. Its not a time to be sending the message that we should be holding rallies. We need to be sending the message in this could be a terrible time for the nation as we head into the winter. Even as bad as its been in march and april and what we saw and then over the summer, the worst could be yet to come as we head towards the winter. So to hold rallies, to be defiant of masks, all those things are just going to continue to erode at the at the morale of the american people. Well, i mean, the medical warning that youre talking about, dr. Hotez, is the opposite of what President Trump is saying at his rallies, toluse, and to his superers. Supporters. I thought it was funny when President Trump was hospitalized, some people thought he was going to have this epiphany and come out and do something different. That is hope springing eternal, i guess. Thats not what has happened. He has double downed on his message of getting back out there, you know, ripping off the mask, wanting to kiss force unwanted kisses on everybody in the crowd. And i think that one of the things that weve learned, toluse, is how much people do rely actually on their leaders and how much people do mimic the behavior of their leaders. Coming up in the next hour well talk to somebody who is a big trump supporter and who got very, very sick because he said he listened to the president and thought it was all sort of a hoax. And so anyway plier, were just watching it play out. Your thoughts. People do follow the president , especially his supporters and people within his base. We see this huge breakdown between republicans and mask wearing and democrats and mask war wearing, even though its popular across the country so its a mystery why the president is antimask. Pollsters say they dont like Wearing Masks compared to other people. So the president has led this charge against Public Health measures which are designed to help the country, designed to keep us from having, you know, tens of thousands of deaths between now and election day which is looks like is whats going to happen. So the president holds these massive rallies. He has a huge audience. He has ab opportunin opportunitn Health Measures and play politics and lead part of the country, the members of his base who dont believe in masks, who dont believe that this virus is anything that they need to worry about and the president continues to downplay it. Even though it may have been a smarter political move as weve seen other leaders who caught coronavirus to come out it more humbled and willing to are focused on keeping the country from going through what he went through with his hospitalization and coming off the campaign trail for ten days. Hes taken a different approach and deciding to be defiant. Well have to wait and see whether or not that works for him, but the polls show thats not something thats helping rhyme him right now. Dr. Hotez, youve known dr. Anthony fauci for a long time, for decades, which inadvertently dates you. Have you ever seen him as put off as he is right now . Because he is fighting back against the Trump Campaign for putting him in an ad. We heard him with jake tapper say it would be outrageous if they used him again in an ad. You heard him ask out loud on that interview, he wishes the Trump Campaign would take the words that they have in there down because theyre out of context. He told the daily piece there is something. He goes, quote, none of my wildest freaking dreams did i ever think about quitting. By doing this against my will, they are, in effect, harassing me since campaign ads are about getting votes, their harassment of me might have the opposite effect of turning some voters off. Youve known him a long time. What do you hear there . Two things, john. I think i first met tony, dr. Fauci in 1980, eighty 1. I was a student at cornell then, he was also a graduate and i think he came back for a visit and known him over the last four years, a long time. Two things about dr. Fauci. One, hes one of the most unflappable individuals ive ever met, always calm, always thoughtful, always, you know, really trying to make good decisions. Hes also probably the least political person ive ever known. He never publicly voices any endorsement or support for a candidate, even in private for all the conversations over the last 40 years ive had with him, he just doesnt go there. And its not because hes trying hard not go there, hes not that interested in politics. He loves the science, he loves to learn, he loves to, you know, use his influence and knowledge to make the world a better place. Thats just not his thing. So, for him to get so upset, you know, really shows how hard this campaign is willing to go to exploit people for their own means. Toluse, i want to talk about former vp joe biden and how he is approaching the campaign trail and just his message on the campaign trail. Listen to what he said in ohio yesterday. Like a lot of you, i spent a lot of my time with guys like trump looking down on me. The Irish Catholic kid in the neighborhood. Guys who thought they were better than me because they had a lot of money. Guys who inherited everything they ever got and still managed to squander it. I still have a little bit of chip on my shoulder good guys like him. Its interesting, toluse, to hear him stick with that message. Weve heard that now for a few weeks and do we have any data points on if that is, you know, turning people or resonating with voters . Well, we do know that joe biden is doing better with white workingclass voters than Hillary Clinton was four years ago. And thats part of who that message is directed at. Joe biden wants to be seen as sort of lunchpacked scranton joe and he wants to paint Donald Trumps that guy who lived on fifth avenue and has gold everywhere and, you know, looks down on people who support him. And its been tough to separate President Trump and his base, which is very loyal, which is