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CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman December 9, 2020

Not to get the Pfizer Vaccine after two Health Care Workers suffered allergic reactions to that shot. So we have sanjay to explain what all of that means, ahead. So this morning, the president still trying to overturn the election he lost in public, but he appears to now have lost one avenue he was counting on, the Supreme Court. The court in one terse sentence denied the attempt to reverse the Election Results in pennsylvania. So which republican senator or congressman will now come out and say that joe biden won the election . Mitch mcconnell . Ted cruz, Kevin Mccarthy . Feel free to call, the phone lines are open this morning. Also new this morning, cnn has reported that president elect joe biden will name two new cabinet members. Well tell you which positions they will fill shortly. But we begin with dr. Sanjay gupta on the breaking news out of the uk. Sanjay, great to see you. So were all waiting to see what happens after we watch the first people get the Pfizer Vaccine yesterday. And now we have a little bit of information about two of the people who received the vaccine. Heres the press release. As is common with new vaccines, the mhra, thats the agency, have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccine after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely yesterday. And just to be clear, sanjay, this doesnt mean the allergies that im suffering, the morning allergies that im suffering that can be fixed with an allergy pill. This is different. So what are their telling us . Yeah, so this is this is interesting. And i think its going to it would certainly dictate the response, as we roll out this vaccine around the world. They specifically said that people with a severe allergic reaction to medicines, foods, or previous vaccines shouldnt take this vaccine. This may be the guidance that evolves over time. Theyre obviously being cautious. What we dont know for certain is what exactly the people who had this allergic reaction to, what they were reacting to within the vaccine. Its is a different sort of vaccine. Was it something that was used to make the vaccine, was it how it was stored in some way . Thats going to be an area of investigation. With an allergic reaction like this, it typically takes place quickly, within 10 to 15 minutes, which is why for all vaccines, youre typically asked to stay at the doctors office, for this sort of thing. People may develop chest tightness or flushing on their skin. Oftentimes, with epinephrine or even with Something Like benadryl, if its more serious, you want to use epinephrine, you can basically treat it. But it is gong to be a question sort of Going Forward now. Theres lots of people who may identify themselves as having severe allergic reactions to things, especially if it includes foods, medicines, and previous vaccines. Now, when we were looking through the pfizer data, ill just share with you quickly, it is interesting, they did exclude people with a history of significant adverse allergic reactions in the past, within the clinical trial. So now are going to exclude people Going Forward in the general population . Well see. Obviously, thats happening in the uk. Thats very interesting. I did not know that. So people who may be in this group that have been affected in the uk, they were not part of the trial, so this may be the first time we are seeing whether people with a history of severe allergic reactions again to that subset, youre talking about medicines, vaccines, and foods, were seeing how they may be affected. And sanjay, just to reiterate this. And again, the fda is meeting tomorrow in the United States to determine whether to grant emergency use authorization. They likely will. I want people to be clear, whats happening in the United Kingdom is notable, its happening every day. But again, not cause for alarm. This is a matter of course for vaccines, yes . Yes, its common when you roll out new vaccines to have, you know, new adverse effects that may occur. And i should point out, both of these Health Care Workers recovered fine, theyre doing fine, but there are new adverse effects that typically appear. We dont know the denominator here. What percentage of people this likely affected. Well have to figure that out. And im sure its going to be a topic of discussion at the Fda Advisory Committee tomorrow, as well. Also, you know, are there other sorts of strategies Going Forward for people who have had significant Adverse Reactions, is it just going to be, look, this is not a vaccine for you . Is it something where you say, you can pretreat with benadryl or Something Like that. We dont know. That is something that happens. There are, you know, Adverse Reactions even to the flu shot. Typically, its because people ma may have a preexisting allergy to eggs or Something Like that. With this mrna vaccine, its made in a different way, so we have to better understand what exactly people are reacting to and how to best address that. We dont know that yet. And if youre starting to basically say, anybody who has significant allergies to foods, medicines, or vaccines in the past, were going to have to better define that. What specifically constituted a severe allergy. Did someone develop significant allergic symptoms within a few minutes of receiving the vaccine . Did it involve tightness in the chest, flushing on the skin, people develop stomach upset . What was it exactly . As we get more of those details, well certainly share them with you, but that would provide more context for people out there who are starting to think when they might get the vaccine. Definitely, sanjay. You and i have talked about this in the past. Ive done a lot of reporting on Vaccine Hesitancy, and this is just all some people need to hear, because theyre already skittish about getting it. And even though a reaction to a vaccine is literally one in a million. I mean, dr. Offit just said that those are the numbers that might have some sort of severe allergic reaction, thats all they need to hear to kind of pump the brakes. So us being transparent and talking about it and finding out that it can easily be rectified and that these two Health Care Workers are fine, thats, i think, really helpful. And one question, does do these new findings possibly change the fda approval that were expecting tomorrow for the emergency authorization . I think thats a really important question, you know, for this authorization tomorrow. My guess is, its not going to change that authorization or change the likelihood of that authorization. We dont know for certain, obviously, whats happening yet. But i think its going to factor into the discussion. Obviously, youve talked to paul offit. He sits on these Advisory Committees, but i think one of the things thats going to be important is exactly what youre saying, alisyn. Is to address the significant Vaccine Hesitancy that already exists by really, really defining exactly what happened here, not shying away from it. Something happened, the two workers, theyre doing fine. I dont know, maybe you know, if they received epinephrine or benadryl or what they received that might give some context into how significant these allergic reactions were, but also, what is it going to mean for people Going Forward . Should, if somebody has had any kind of reaction in the past, should they be pretreated with benadryl or Something Like that to basically, you know, mitigate of reduce the likelihood that theyll have another allergic response . Were learning, right now, realtime, as we go along, as we see this you know, what will be one of the largest vaccine rollouts in our history go out, weve got to define these things very, very carefully. Look, we dont know the answers to those questions yet. This new information is coming to light by the hour. And i suspect well learn more by tomorrow when the fda does meet. Sanjay, i want to talk about where we are exactly today, which is 105,000, nearly, americans hospitalized with coronavirus. Thats a record. There was a big jump overnight in new hospitalizations, which is a real concern to me, because this is one of the metrics that cant be fudged and is a real sign of things to come. 2,500 new deaths reported overnight, which again for a tuesday is so high, because these numbers tend to rise over the course of the week, thats where we are. Things are bad and getting worse in the shortterm. President elect joe biden announced his plan for what he intends to do about this, starting on january 20th. He says he will call for a hundredday mask mandate. Thats not forcing everyone to wear a mask, but requiring masks in federal buildings, calling on state governors and plaimayors launch mask mandates, and the interesting something is distribute 100 million vaccines, try to administer about 100 million shots in the first hundred days. Your take on this plan . Well, you know, this is a sort of solid plan that weve been hearing about in fragments over the last several months. You know, its sort of laid out here. I know that he did this in consultation with dr. Fauci, as well, so it fits very much with what weve been hearing from them. 100 million doses in a hundred days. First of all, this may be more than just semantics, but 100 million doses versus 100 Million People are two different things, because these vaccines require two doses. So is it 200 million doses . And if so, we can start to look at the calendar here in terms of likelihood of getting that many vaccines out. Youve seen, obviously, so far, for this year, they say 40 million vaccines potentially by the end of the year. And that counts on both pfizer and moderna receiving this emergency use authorization. As you go into the following hundred days, you know, in the beginning of next year, you know, you start to get to that point where you may get to 100 to 150 million doses, but you may also have two other vaccines come online. I spoke to moncef slewy about this. And its possible that johnson johnson, the oxford subsaidiary and astrazeneca may apply for emergency use authorization some time early thnext year. That would help make up the shortfall. Things have got to go well and youre probably going to need more than the existing two vaccines that have applied for emergency use authorization. One thing i just want to follow up on as well with the hospitals, because i totally agree with you, and its the metric i probably paid the most attention to over the past several months, because its the truest, most consistent measure. You see the numbers going up, but theres another measure that we should be paying attention to, and that is that the likelihood of being able to get hospitalized, if you have illness. So, even though the overall hospitalizations are going up, the percentage of people, the merge of people who are sick is actually going down. And what that means, basically, take a look at the numbers there. In august, it was 9. 5 of patients who have been admitted to the hospital. Now its 7. 4 . Why is that significant . It basically now gives you an idea that hospitals are starting to compensate. They are starting to basically say, look, youre coming in, but youre not sick enough. Three months ago, we would have admitted you to the hospital, but not today, because we simply are running out of room. These the types of triggers, measures, compensatory mechanisms that we look at to see how hospitals are starting to cope. Its worrisome as we start to rouc run out of beds. Field hospitals like we saw in wisconsin and rhode island, those types of things may be cropping up more and more. Very interesting statistic. Very revealing and very helpful. Thanks, sanjay. We will be able to post some of these questions to the health and Human Services secretary, alex azar, when he was on our program in the next hour. And Rudy Giuliani didnt have any problems getting in the hospital, did he . 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The conservative Majority Court which has three members, which he appointed, denied a republican effort to block the certification of joe bidens victory in pennsylvania. Joining us now, cnn chief political correspondent, dana bash. Also with us, cnn political analyst, toluse olorunnipa, a White House Reporter for the washington post. Obviously, the court denied it because it was a ridiculous case, as all of these cases have been. Dana, im sure your phone has been ringing off the hook from Republican Leaders in Congress Like Mitch Mcconnell and Kevin Mccarthy and senators like my phone is blowing up. Saying, dana, dana, the president won the election. We admit it now if Mitch Mcconnell calls me one more time, its going to be an issue. Im kidding, obviously. Thats why alisyn is laughing. Of course, that should have been the case. This should have been the case for weeks and weeks and weeks. But it is not the case. And you know, our colleague, steven collinson, who every morning has a terrific analysis piece, started his so beautifully this morning, saying, the question is, how many times does President Trump want to lose the election . Because that is what he is setting himself up for over and over and over again. And the most embarrassing was what happened last night at the Supreme Court. That one line, that one sentence she put out there. And it spoke volumes in its brevity. And the fact that the three Supreme Court justices that he nominated, that he pushed through confirmation in the u. S. Senate didnt use their opportunity to dissent tells you all you need to know. Now, real quick, i will tell you that what these republicans, not necessarily Mitch Mcconnell, but republicans are saying publicly and privately is, look for monday. Monday is the day that the Electoral College meets. Look for that to be a turning point. But weve heard similar things before and we havent seen the full embrace of reality from these leaders. Lets see if this is different. Just help me keep up, toluse, with the conspiracy theories that republicans are hanging their hat on. So, if i follow the logic, now the Supreme Court is part of the deep state, even the three conservative justices that President Trump appointed to it, so theyre now against President Trump, much like the republican secretaries of state in battleground states. Fbi . Well, obviously attorney general. Oh, the attorney general, right. And so, i mean, its starting to sound like anybody whoever disagrees with President Trump is part of the deep state. But i could be wrong. Yeah, the president s list of allies is really shrinking, as he alienates more and more people, even within his own party. You have the republican governor of georgia and arizona, who are now rhinos in the words of the president , even his own handpicked attorney general, who has gone to bat for him on a number of different issues over the past several years, is now sort of on the outs with the president saying, if he does not step in to essentially substantiate these baseless voter fraud charges, hes going to essentially be, you know, cast aside from this movement. So the president is finding himself with fewer and fewer allies. Now, he has been able to keep a large number of people within his party onboard. We havent seen, as we said, you know, Mitch Mcconnell speak out and say that this election is over and

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