Morning, your take on day two of the Government Shutdown. 202 7370001, 202 7370002, and independence 202 6280205. 12 can email us at journal cspan. Org. Phone is davidhe hawking, Senior Editor with roll call. What will happen today . What is the latest . I do not think we know too much about what will happen today except almost certainly what happens today, whatever , we think the piecemeal bill we will have today is opening the National Institute of health. There were reports yesterday that some young all in a Clinical Trial at nih for cancer treatment, that the trial had to stop and the kids did not get their treatment. What through social media and capital. Almost certainly that will face the same fate as the bills that moved yesterday, which would have involved allowing the District Of Columbia to locally. Aise money to stay open the National Parks and Veterans Administration to keep going. All of those got republican votes, but that was not enough to pass the bill under the two thirds majority rural that the House Republican set up for this. Evidence that the ranks within the Republican Party are starting to crack and there could be more of a movement for a clean continuing resolution . It is all starting to blur ofether, but on the night september 30 there were three or to passes in the house this continuing resolution with various health care writers attached. On each of those, somewhere between 612 republicans opposed those. They were essentially signaling they favored this. That is a small crack, nowhere prompte crack that would the speaker to move a clean cr because he has said many times he will not move any legislation that cannot muster a majority of his majority, which would be something close to 200 18 votes. Any evidence that democrats are getting concerned that republicans are unwilling to negotiate could break through with the American Public and therefore they might support the piecemeal effort that House Republicans are putting forth . Guest i would say a handful of them. Thedog democrats that have races next year have taken the view that you just described, to bondnearly enough with the republicans to advance where they want to do this in a way that sentence or that the Senate Democrats would be willing to go along with this. Has 100 loyalty which is to resist these ideas. All reports are is this could go on for weeks. If it goes into the weekend, debt ceiling negotiations become intertwined. What happens then . The president has left no additional openings for negotiation on the debt ceiling. Maybe even fewer openings on the debt ceiling then he has on the continuing resolution. He has had an ironclad terms he will not trade anything thatoever for legislation would pay the bills of the government has already run up. So it is hard to see when we in herout the next agencies becoming intertwined, hard to see what there is to negotiate. Host why does the government have to shut down in the first place at . The law says the authority for federal agencies to obligate money, to write money write checks and pay money last from one fiscal year to the end of the other. The start of the fiscal year is october 1. On september 30, unless congress has appropriated money to the program for the new fiscal year, it has no permission to spend any money. For a time it was viewed they could not spend any money at all and would be a total Government Shutdown. That was never really honored. In the carter administration, the attorney general at the time wrote an opinion that said in the absence of appropriation, program could continue to spend money temporarily on essential services, so that is why we now have the split. Able to decide what is essential and what is not. Thank you for taking time and setting up this this morning. Going to phone calls. Roberta. Caller i was really calling to remind democrat collars who are calling in and blaming everyone. Hatejust want to spread regarding fascination that our tea party of which i am not a member came about because of the overreach and spending of the total Democrat Party a few years ago. I just think it is time for us to stand up and be americans and get the blame for the people who started it, and that was the Democrat Party. Guest are you feeling the impact of a shut down in san o . Ego likes caller caller no. As long as it takes. Think talking about prayer. She really is a reach. The woman cannot tell the truth. Lets pass it and find out what is in it. Then we hear the president say we will not have this in that. None of it ended up being true. I really think it is time that the people hold this man responsible or his own words and do homework about who this man even is. There may not be signs of a Government Shutdown where roberta lives in san diego but allow him around washington there is a lot of tape. Up on capitol hill non essential employees have been asked not to come to work. Chicago. C caller in good morning. I am a cardiologist. I feel the Government Shutdown could be a possible approach to reorganization of the health care program. As a physician, we have a lot of work to do and how we provide health care to the citizens of the United States. I am independent and watching the whole thing and see arguments from both sides and i see the struggle and frustration , but at the end of the day, it is a complicated system. Patients are really suffering in this country and we need to get on top of it and work with the sides of the aisle and come together because at the end of the day if we are not able to move healthy, we are not able to him do the things we are called to do in this country. Guest john in North Carolina says i made it through the day. Two,er tweet, day government is not working. We want to get your story about how this is working for you. Special line for Government Employees in illinois. Independent caller. I just had to say this, you had other members from arizona i think about 10 days ago. A lady representative and a man representative. Both of them said they wanted to get along. Of course the vote was divided over an eight percent tax that would help a the deficits of our country. As far as the health care goes, my doctor says health care will go down as far as visits. I am only going to give one bloodwork a year. Does not bother me. She is a good doctor and i like her a lot. 135ally hope all congressmen, representatives, everybody all have a massive and die all at once and see if they can get that doctors is it. The first day of the government shut yesterday the first day of the open enrollment for the Affordable Care act. Uris the front page. Obamacare website has seen much interest, some glitches. 2. 8 million is the number who visited. It said others called in to the line. About 60,000 went online for online chats. Were not caused by staffing shortages because most of the Government Employees were not for load but lingering opposition were not for loa urloughed. On the shutdown, below that story, bracing for a long battle. We heard from David Hawkings where this all stands, republicans tried to piecemeal approach yesterday to fund affairs at nih, veteran. Democrats rejected that saying they were picking winners and losers. We will see how that shakes out today in the house comes back into session at 10 00 eastern time. Some other headlines, front page of the wall street journal. Congress digs in for the long haul. The treasury said we will bump up against that that feeling on october 17. Nears. Iling shows a caption of how a Government Shutdown is affecting things around the country, but also oversees the American Cemetery in paris also closed due to the Government Shutdown. Data is on the front page of the financial times. Those two front pages for you from the nations newspapers. Back to phone calls. Eugene, fairfax, virginia. First time caller. Happy to be here. A terrible day i would say. The fact that the Health Care Law is putting hundreds of thousands of workers out of a job basically. It seems as if people do not realize that some of us are out there saving lives, the fact that the republicans want to piecemeal things, given the opportunity to pick and choose what is important and what is not, that is ridiculous. The argument that democrats are not willing to negotiate, there were other parts of the law, the budget that included a lesser amount of money that they did not agree to. Republicans need to take a look at themselves. I am a little frustrated and nervous. Lets hear from a republican, representative paul ryan. Chosen to negotiate between the chambers and come to some sort of deal. Here is what he had to say. All of the things we have done have been the increasing likelihood we get a budget that pays down the debt, progrowth economic policies, create jobs to make sure we can deal with the sequester. We wanted to go to a budget agreement when we thought we had a likelihood of getting an agreement. If we went prematurely, that would decrease the likelihood we got an agreement. We have a debt limit coming. It is coming in about two weeks. Past havets in the always involved us. We think the enforcing mechanism , all of the budget agreements came together because of debt limits. That was paul ryan and wisconsin. In 2012ominee back talking about negotiations. Is next deadline, which raising the debt ceiling so government can pay its bills. Here is from a political piece davis. San House Republicans huddled in private earlier tuesday and showed nosaw regina signs of cohesion. Republicans are bullish. They have reason to be said david washer men. Reggie in arlington, virginia. Government worker. What is your story . Caller as of yesterday at 10 00 in the morning i was for load. Furloughed. Raise inot had a pay four years. Load. Get for we are basically pawns in this pathetic game that the house gop is playing. It is really sad. You belong to a union . Absolutely not. The strongest tool they have is to strike. Federal employees cannot strike. What have you been told about your pay . Truthfully, nothing. We can hope and wish and pray, but that is all we can do. It is really sad you will leverage peoples jobs, employment just to make a point that you try to make fortysomething times. It is ridiculous. I laughed you this. Will Social Security recipients caller i do not know if i am going to get paid honestly. This is what it is about. It is about a Certain Group of people wanting to have their way. There is an old saying, desperate people do desperate things. This is a very desperate act done by very desperate people. Tina, independent caller. Illinois. I am a first time caller. The comments i wanted to make is this needs to stop. Works at a day care center, and i believe the children down there he works with are more mature than people in government. Thing i am concerned aout is my husband is disabled veteran. Told we do notg know if he will get his checks. We lived off of those checks. We live off of a fixed income. What we want to know is when they will get back together and fix what they need to fix so that people will get the money they need, especially the veterans. George in florida. Caller how are you doing . It is no longer we. Half the country dont pay any taxes. He didond caller said not like the republicans. It is the democrats who will not take the piecemeal offer. They are collectively bargaining. I am tired of the social programs. I have not worked since the 1950s. As a capitalist i know what money can do and what it cannot do. These people are more predicated on money than im. The fact is i do not want to see our Constitutional Government turn into a socialist failed government like it is doing all over the world, especially in europe. This man is a socialist and is taking over industry in this country. Great. Sm worse works host jj said this on twitter says gop cannot win a National Election so the sore losers shut down the government. Treat tweet by peter baker thats from peter baker on that. Of the Government Shutdown. The longer the shutdown process, the more it will affect the public. Meals on wheels wheels, the federal program to feed hungry Senior Citizens would need to shut down services in the last more than a week or so. , just one person instead of eight is tracking flu born pathogens. The fcc said the shutdown was forcing it to suspend big mergers. The judge that no. At the nih, Francis Collins said 200 patients who will otherwise be admitted to the Clinical Center for Clinical Trials will be turned away. This includes 30 children. Most of them cancer patients. Civilian workers were also sent home. Some of the effects of a Government Shutdown as we are in day two. Toby is in pennsylvania. Democratic caller. Last time there was a Government Shutdown was 17 years ago when clinton was president. Remember how great clinton didnt as a president . Did as a president . Republicans will try to shut down the government. They did it 17 years ago and are doing it now. They just use obamacare as a point to say it is that. What was it when clinton was president . We have not had Reasonable Republicans and a very long time. That is not right. You should not shut down the government just because you do not get elected. You see the new Voting Rights infringements. You see this happening. They try to make it harder for democrats to get elected. Host how old are you . Caller i am 26. I am unemployed right now. I got cancer a little while ago and could not work. I had insurance and had my job. Because i got sick. After i got better, because of i was 25 at the time, and obamacare covers you if you are under 26. I hopped on my dads insurance because i had been out of work so long getting treatment. I was able to get treatment because of obamacare. And the people say it is wrong, i have been directly affected by it in the fact that it was good. I have not had a job since because of the economy. Tore have been 40 plus votes repeal obamacare. Zero votes on jobs bills this year. The wall street journal jared bernstein, former economic adviser to the obama administration, longtime aide to joe biden wrote this. He wrote this piece. They cannot know for sure whether congress will decide to pay them until the shutdown is over. Means affected households are likely to rein in spending. While that number represents only. 5 of the workforce, the reduced Economic Activities could be felt in communities where they are overrepresented like d. C. Or in small towns that have a Popular National park. All parks are closed. This is splashed across many of the newspapers across the country this morning. Sheila in massachusetts. Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. There are three equal branches of government. They are equal and we have a right to dissent of this administration or any other administration over any law that has made. Here is a question you should be asking all of your callers. Should everyone be treated the same or are federal employees so much more special that they should get special deals, along with big corporations and others. A simple question. Take a poll. You will see. Faire not being treated and equally under this bill. Lied to get it passed in congress. Court,ed to the supreme saying it was not a tax. He lied in front of the entire nation. Linda and washington. What are your thoughts this morning . Mostly what i want to say is federal workers are people, people with families, people who are veterans and people who have families that are suffering because of the shutdown. What i want to talk about this morning is the jeopardy that the shutdown is putting families in. Risk of all, my husband is a commercial fisherman and is out fishing and cannot get access to the marine weather. Not only am i worried about what is going on at work, i am worried about my family. When the piecemeal in comes in and says we were putting the. Eteran it is really not about any of that, it is all about all of that. We need to be aware how we are putting families lives in jeopardy. I am hoping we can put forth in a positive manner and how this is affecting real people. A liberal group, a graphic they put out yesterday. Republicans shut down the government. Made its way across facebook yesterday. Conservatives responded. Airingservative group is radio ads urging democrats to eliminate funding for the Health Care Law to resolve a Government Shutdown. Take a look at the new advertisement. Obamacare will begin any day now but unenforceable and unworkable and unfair. Thankfully republicans have voted to fund the government. Harry reid and democrats are forcing a Government Shutdown to get their way. Democrats are insisting americans be forced to do a Government Run Health Care programs they do not want. Congressional democrats want you to be forced into a programs they are exempted from. Is time for democrats to listen to americans and defund obamacare. Over 2 million americans have arty sign the petition. Congressional democrats still not listening. Host other republicans are saying this. And washington some republicans conceded privately they might bear the brunt of any public anger and seemed resigned to an eventual surre