Transcripts For CSPAN2 Book Discussion On Goliath 20140106 :

CSPAN2 Book Discussion On Goliath January 6, 2014

Far of what the nation called the hamas book club. So welcome. I think john is now the interior minister triet and thank you to bill and hillary clinton. Just kidding. My book is for sale outside. I think we have lots of copies of the book. I hope you all will support what im doing here and i will be happy to sign your copies and theres going to be a lively q a session. I want to warn you that madea benjamin is here and will take care of you. [laughter] its been an interesting few weeks. In the last few months we have seen them emerge against the will of the American Public first the attack on syria. They would have met a historic defeat. And it failed again to stop this Historic Deal between the u. S. , the administration of barack obama and iran, the administration. Its been exposed for not having a grassroots base on like the most powerful lobby like the National Rifle association. All they seem to have in its fighting retreat is a whole lot of money and i want to see that they have failed to shut me down on the book tour. They have acted and attempted to stop the events that have already been held on the book tour and the have utterly failed and theres been an attempt to suppress my talks and the discussion that we are having here and its a discussion on the ground and this has failed so we should welcome this failure as a victory for free speech. [applause] theres an interesting new developments related to the deal in israel and it is where my book takes place i dont get into the geopolitics and i dont deal with washington. My book is an intimate on the ground portrait and a single state under the discriminatory regime. During the culmination of the transition phase that began after the crushing of the second with the rise of what the planners call hebrew for subornation and bears the residence of the term apartheid which simply means separateness this is manifested in the separation wall that cuts deep into the west bank was in the words of Benjamin Netanyahu to prevent the demographics spillover in the siege and its manifested inside israel as i am going to discuss, but it also led to a psychological transition and the society and political transition that has resulted in which is a majority at least permanent rightwing dominance over the key institutions of life. This week the Democracy Institute took a poll and a majority of jewish israelis declared that the wish to end of the special relationship with of the United States to find new allies. At the same time, 70 of the jewish israelis declared they dont believe that they will find new allies in other words they should simply go it alone. The working title that i proposed referred to the second century roman era fortress where the band of jewish fanatics hold up and commit mass suicide and by editors proposed this title, but i think that as we look at the developments in the past few weeks the first title might have been more appropriate. So my book begins in the gaza strip or in and around the strip and right now while this every the festival of lights that they are plunged into darkness and its one powerpoint is unable to function. This has been the case for about a month and it is because israel supported the siege on the gaza strip. The transitional phase culminated with the attack on the gaza street in 28 and 29 in which 1400 residents mostly civilians according to the Human Rights Group were killed over 300 women and children were killed, most according at home and development were taking place in israel at this time there was a National Election under way. Tipi livni who was then foreign minister running for Prime Minister and was trying to capture the mood of the Society Declared our troops believe like hooligans in maastricht during these operations, which i demanded of them. If they had gathered which the journalists that were barred from entering described as the hill of shame and they gathered to cheer on the attack as the battle. One woman was filmed declaring to the danish tv crew they should lift the whole thing off the map. Im a little bit fascist and these kind of proclamations that we are gaining in popularity of 95 of the public in the first week they declared their support in high school during this assault, the elections were held and the party that won by an overwhelming majority was the party of lieberman who wound up gaining the Third Largest amount of votes and becoming the foreign minister, israels top diplomat, he was just cleared of the ties and serious charges relating to his mafia ties by the way and some people were not able to testify against him because they mysteriously disappeared and now she has reemerged as one of the most popular politicians in israel but we are in 2009 and he campaigned on a very simple platform. He ran ads over and over declaring that no loyalty, no citizenship triet in other words, if you fail to declare loyalty to the jewish state you would be stripped of your Citizenship Rights and this applied to the 20 of the public who are palestinian citizens of israel to begin and he moved to fulfill his promise as he entered as the Third Largest party in coalition with younger members that would support from Benjamin Netanyahu and what support even from eduk barak who supported an initiative that passed to require all new citizens of israel to swear loyalty to the jewish and democratic state. The loyalty of these loyalty oaths were first introduced by the rabbi who was actually banned in 1988 for the racist incitement who advocated the establishment of a theater co craddock forcible transfer of all palestinians and nonjews that refer to swear loyalty to so they had to declare that they had one and the labor partys. All after law was passed like this and like the acceptance to the community which authorized communities of under 500 to discriminate on the basis of race and even sexuality. The banning of the most outspoken palestinian legislator who i interviewed and written extensively in my book and who was currently the most hated woman in israel from running in 2008 and in 2012 by the Central Election Committee both were overturned by the Supreme Court and there is now an effort not only to staff the Supreme Court with rightwing justices including the first religious nationalist settler who is now sitting on the bench but also to allow them to basically veto the Supreme Court decisions and it all relates to this to allow any citizen seen as hurting their business because they called for the boycott of the settlement could also cast. I interviewed one of the most important members who very few of you have ever heard of that was the author of most of these who have at least cosponsored them and was the key deputy. He lives in the settlement which is a very large settlement that cuts deep into the west bank like one of the original homes. David was just appointed to the team on the socalled Peace Process and has issued a map in which they will be incorporated into the future state of israel. So, she was very welcoming to me and speaks in a very straightforward way. You just tell it straight and i really appreciated this because when i challenged him on these that he was introducing and said what you are doing is consolidating what Thomas Jefferson would have called the tyranny of the majority, he looked me in the eye and told me the tyranny of the majority is the essence of democracy. And that is the way that many people, many of the key figures understand democracy. He has been the head of the Constitution Committee which is one of the most important committees because israel has no constitution for a variety of reasons including the that the constitution generally requires you to set National Borders and israel has never had any internationally and recognized borders. It actually has no borders right now. I dont know where it is. So when someone accuses me of wanting to why the israel off the map i had them and that can and asked them to draw it where it is for me and they are rarely able to do that. Another reason that israel has no constitution is that it requires you to define your National Identity, and israel has no National Identity. In fact the Supreme Court last ruled there was no such thing as an Israeli National identity. Identity can only be afforded according to the ethnic lines either you are jewish or arab and this is the basis of institutional discrimination or apartheid to be an interesting law was introduced 2011 and its past. They were one of the authors of it and it was actually an amendment to the preexisting law that im going to talk about and a second. It was an amendment to the antiinfiltration and under this amendment, any of the 60,000 nonjewish african refugees who fled from sudan and from oppression and from extreme poverty seeking the sanctuary in the jewish state which they believe in body the lessons of the holocaust, any of them can be detained and held without charges and without trial as long as three years. Currently thanks to this law that passed, there were thousands who was entire families were sleeping in the desert facilities which was built basically beside the prison for the palestinian Political Prisoners were held during the first, and you can read a fascinating account of that in a book called prisoners by Jeffrey Goldberg who is a guard. They are sleeping and the Supreme Court was issued a challenge by an israeli civilrights group about this detention facility, which has and he read reminiscence in this country where the japanese citizens of the United States were held basically in an Internment Center for years because they were deemed to possess any race blood. And according to this, the Supreme Court ruled that the amendment should be invalidated. Already theres any street Level Campaign to expel the nonjewish africans who lived in south televisa and theyve been concentrated in the poorest neighborhood to sleep in parks and denied work permits. They have been attacked in what could only be described as the race riots. May 23rd of 2012 a group of the leading members on the Israeli Government including the deputy Prime Minister chair person spoke before thousands and declared that the cancers in israels body which according to the times of the jewish israelis agreed with and following this rally, hundreds rioted through african areas of south tel aviv. This led to the fire bombings including an african kindergarten and extremely did defeat could disturbing episode in the back of the New York Times. It got very little attention in this country. So it led to this amendment to the antiinfiltration law and that amendment has been overturned so theres a new information but will provide a solution by which the nonjewish africans would be held for up to one year in this facility and a bit of to check and three times a day but they are allowed to leave during the day but they have to sleep there at night so they can be sequestered from the public. This reminds me of what the historian calls some downtown and the u. S. During the 1940s and 1950s there were many towns including chevy chase maryland that had ordinances that forbade them from being there after dark and with this alternative solution that Benjamin Netanyahu has introduced and support it, israel will become the largest sundown town in the world. The amendment that i mentioned to the antiinfiltration is an amendment to the law passed. These discriminatory laws are not necessarily a right wing. They are nothing new. Simply an extension of those that have already been passed to consolidate the character has jewish state. As an ethnically pure state to consolidate the demographic majority of israel. Under the 1954 antiinfiltration act, any palestinian that left their home between the time of the passage of the partition plan and the hostilities of the 1948 war was considered an infiltrator and thousands upon thousands of the 750,000 palestinians who were expelled in 1947 and 48 were uprooted from the communities where they try to reunite with their families and moved back to their homes and attend to their farm land or they were violently uprooted again and thrown out according to the law. So this is nothing new. It is actually a continuous process. The palestinians refer to it as catastrophe. Take a water break here. And i consider it to be based on my experience in living in places like the palestinian ghetto of tel aviv where there are 500 Standing Orders all applying to the palestinian homes coming to places which used to be known as seeing entire palestinian neighborhoods demolish even though they are citizens of israel because they cant get permits, i see this as a continuous process. There is an interesting book out right now by a journalist, an israeli columnist and it has been praised by Thomas Friedman and host on charlie rose. Basically the toast of the town and new york and he wrote an article for the new yorker that prefaced the arguments and his ideas in this book might promised land, in which he describes the ethnic cleansing of the city where tens of thousands of palestinians were basically they were massacres and they were sent on basically what was a death march to ramallah. He presented this but he went on to justify it. This is someone from the liberal wing of the consensus in israel and he justify it and said it were it not for this campaign of ethnic cleansing which was horrible, i never would have been born. And to grapple with the moral implications is to immense. In other words, she would like to see the Refugee Status of the palestinians who had been expelled. There are currently 7 million refugees living around the world to be consolidated and this is kind of a consensus view of the zionist left and israel and its why they have sort of been celebrated in this country and it is helping to fight think the efforts to promote this book and helping psychologically prepare people here for the coming discussion about 1948 since it no longer focuses on to state your 1967 with a green line. Its going to go back to 1948. Then you have the right wing like lieberman, Like Netanyahu and to his right of the sarah palin who actually speaks better english than sarah palin. She is for 32yearsold and very pretty and well spoken and the deputy transportation minister of israel and she held hearings against a simulation or jewish their relationships and has vowed to expel all legislators from that who fail to take these loyalty oaths and convert. They are the future of the israeli politics and its because the of taken a different view on 1948 than the liberals who accepted but dont want to carry it any further. They also acknowledge that this happened. They believe it is an unfinished project that the ethnic purity is not consolidated. And they are a battle cry. The two words that really animate the politics are finished 48. We hear the cry in the tool letters issued by the statefunded rabbis who declare that it was not to rent to the jews inside of the proper and we hear it from the letter issued declaring that it is illegal under the jewish law for the women to date arab men or have relations with them and we see at. We see the finished 48 movement in the burgeoning and thai massage and asian groups which are rampaging through the cities and gaining power in a the Israeli Government, which recently set up a hotline where the callers can inform on the jewish arab couples which have issued certificates to businesses that refuse to employ nonissue is which they have received funding from the Israeli Government through the group and who inspired the youth that built in 19yearsold and to make, in central jerusalem in the square where i lived for several months because a 15yearold girl had told them that he made a pass at her while they chanted. And an arab is a son of a bitch which is a chance after every goal. Dozens of by standards stood by and did nothing. Echoes of the submerged passed in the United States and of the path that we thought we had that was passed, but as William Faulkner said, the past isnt even the past. They took over the labor party and declared at the time that israel was becoming like alabama in the 1930s and he urged the president to speak up against the racism. Perez said nothing who has been awarded the congressional medal of honor by barack obama. We see finish 48 in the party. It is a pro settler religious party that is the Third Largest party in israel. They recently endorsed a decision by the National Civil Service Administration banning the jewish, a religious jewish women from volunteering in hospitals after 9 p. M. From the fear that they would date arab doctors and i find that unusual, this decision unusual because ive been found its good to date doctors. [laughter] we see the call in finished 48 in the plans just issued by the organization which is an executive arm of the government to plant 100,000 jewish settlers inside the green line in israel proper to quote on quote balance the population. What kind of country balances one ethnic group with another . You can call it perhaps an apartheid state meet you can call it a discriminatory and bigotry, you can c

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