Probable cause and opposition to warrantless searches. You condemn the fifth amendment, condemn the First Amendment and free speech and religious liberty . Condemn all these amendments, which were also adopted by many of the framers who were slave owners. Do you reject them, too . The rational position should be, what did these men create that is beneficial to this nation . What they created that is beneficial to this nation is a society, if they couldnt be completely free of slavery then, is free of slavery today, and thats what the constitution sets thats what the declaration of independence sets forth. In other words, its set in motion. And the constitution, a governing document, set in place. So, i reject this idea that these men are to be dismissed, and one of the reasons george mason didnt sign the constitution was because he didnt think it went far enough on the matter of slavery. Matter of fact the issue of slavery came up early during the Constitutional Convention in georgia and South Carolina threatened to withdraw. So, here they were, trying to put a nation together, they couldnt resolve some of these very difficult and issues at the time, and i would say one other thing. If the constitution had failed there wouldnt be a United States, would there . There wouldnt have been a civil war, would there . And slavery wouldnt have been eliminated in the southern states, would it . No. Those states would have been off on their own, maybe they form their own country. Who knows what the future of those of states would have been. But because of the constitution, because we had a union, ultimately because of the civil war, it ended slavery, not just in parts of the northern states but throughout the unitees United States. Host todd wants to know if you would ever run for office. Guest no. Host why . Guest i think i can from my own perspective, think i can be more effective not being in office. Imagine all the sound bites theyd pull up from my radio show and run with the 30second ads. I give it no thought whatsoever. When i was younger i did. I thought about it. Matter of fact i ran for office when i was in law school. I was 19 and i got elected to my local school board. I was 20, still in law school, and i did that for about three years, and i have calmed down since then. Oo why the school board . Guest well, its funny. They were raising taxes massively on the community, and only through property taxes could they do it. And i could see how it was hurting my parents and other people, and i decided to run, and i guess i for my own Little Community i created something akin to a Tea Party Group but the committee for tax limitation, and while i was running in the Republican Party primary, i also established this committee for tax limitation and we would go door to door and have coffee crashes. I worked the Community Day in and day out and i won the primary and the general election, and i served nor three years until i lost pennsylvania. That get to rid of the desire to run for office. Ive thought about it. Ive thought about i the state delegate running against him because he was spending too much money, and he got nervous and everything like that. But ive thought about it. Not in the last 20 years, though. Host do politicians come to you for endorsements . Guest yes. Host do you ever endorse . Guest yes. Host whoa who is your favorite Politics Today . Guest if i dont get trouble, have a number of favorite politics. Ted cruz and mike lee and i like rand paul. Now im going to get in trouble. Members of the house or other senators oo marco rubio. Guest if disagray disagree with hi strongly on immigration and i agree with taxes and he introduced a bill to prevent obama he hopes from subsidizing the Insurance Companies which will clearly have to be done and clearly shouldnt be done. So, yeah, theres aspects of his record i like as well. Host 2016, jeb bush vs. Hillary clinton. Guest disaster. A disaster for everybody. I dont know if that will happen or not. I hope not. I hope both parties do better than that. I mean, Hillary Clinton was a disasterrous secretary of state. The middle east is burning. Obama likes to say, at least before kerry was appointed, the best secretary of state in history. What the hell is he talking about . Her record is a disaster. And kerry looks like he wants to oneup her and make it even worse. Constantly putting the pinch on israel and looking for some phony peace with the palestinians, and appeasing the iranian islamic regime in train. These folks are just its a complete disaster, and you can see theyre not taken seriously. The egyptian military, which runs egypt now, is now building ties with the russians, something that democrat and republican president s have prevent since sadat. Were losing turkey as its becoming increasingly islamist. Saudi arabians are set up for this president , and these secretaries of state and so forth. The chinese have moved into the china sea now. All kinds of things going on globally that are hugely problematic, and thats because of the disastrous policies of this president and his secretaries of state. As for jeb bush, how many more bushes do we need . We have had two as president. Jeb bush, trashing people who dont support him amnesty. Pushing for this common core federal education mandate on the states. I mean, we have been there done that, and its a disaster. How about we do this . Republicans. How about we pick somebody who is more in line with reagan. How about we try to actually win a president ial election. We talk about liberty and private Property Rights, and free Market Capital limp and opportunity and Wealth Creation and own ebb is having a obama is having a big picture with Unemployed People behind him. Which is funny since probably most of them are unemployed and a result of his policies. Wee why dont we have people who can stand up confidently, koa airportly, and advance our principles. Dont have to be purists, just conservative. S. Just dont think this is asking too much. Why reject the one example two Massive National landslides, reagan, and keep embracing the losers . I dont know. But i think two bushes is enough. Let me put it that way. Host chris christie. Guest i dont care for him. He has a fairly terrible record in new jersey. They have the highest property taxes in the country. They did when he came in and still do today. He is weak on limited government. All these governors and state attorneys general who signed the brief against obamacare, christie refused and he still wont explain why he did it other than the lame argument he didnt want to spend the money. Doesnt cost him anything to sign it. He has expanded medicaid now, which is a disaster for the states. One out every four dollars that the states budget spend on medicaid and it will go through the roof when the federal subsidies stop. He is proam necessary city, pro gun control. Again, why would the Republican Party go to another northeastern republican. They went to romney. That failed. Christie, thats not going to work. Dont think his temperment will fly in much of the country. But, no, im not a fan. Host mark levin, who is sprite . Guest sprite was a dog that we owned, family and i, a shelter dog, fer shelter dog we ever had, and oh, gosh, how many years ago. I guess its 2004, thereabouts. We adopted him, brought him into our home. He was sort of a blond, white dog so the family called him sprite because we had a dog that was black and white and we called him pepsi, so we had pepsi and sprite, like the drinks. And we only had him two years and he was a wonderful, wonderful dog, wonderful companion to our dog, pepsi, wonderful dog to us, and i have a huge heart for dogs, for animals generally, but dogs in particular, and about a year in the got sick, part of his skull sort of caved in, and a tumor, and he it was just very sad at the end there, we had to put him down. We never had put down a dog before. And it was extremely emotional and very, very upsetting to be honest i got very down for a period of months, and what is interesting about that maybe to people i dont know is i had in an early discussions with simon some schuster about writing a book on conservatives that became liberty and tyranny, and sold 1. 3 million copies. Then sprite passed away, and i told them i wasnt interested in writing anything. And then because of sprite. Because of sprite guest i just wasnt in the mood. Because it hit me hard. And so they said, how about you write a book about your dog, and then you write the book on conserve tim because we really want you to write this book on conservatism so i did. And its rescuing sprite, took me three months to write it. It was very difficult to write. But it was fairly quick, and then i remember my editor saying, you need to work on another book, and then he called me and said, slow down, lets focus on talking about rescuing sprite. What happened was it took off and went to number two or three on the New York Times bestseller list, and its a very personal book. People who have adopted shelter dogs or even if they havent but have lost a dog or an animal and had to put them down, they get much solace out of this book, and im glad they do, and Koch Brothers had nothing to do with and it every penny i get from the book 0 goes to animal shelters. Host do you have a dog . Sunny eave a dog called barney. He is a shelter dog, had him two years, maybe four or five years old, and the story with barney is, he was turned in by somebody to an animal shelter, a rural virginia county, and they dont keep them that long, one or two days, and they were going to put him down, but a volunteer there called friends of mine, a shelter that im called to, called lost dog and cat in virginia, arlington, virginia, and they sent their van over there picked up six or seven of them within hours of them being put to death, and guy to these adoption things from time to time. I still do. And i had lost pepsi. Pepsi had died. About six or seven months earlier, and a buddy of mine and i were on the floor playing with the dogs, and this one in particular was very receptive to us, and he wanted to take him home but his wife said no. And then i wanted to take him home, and if waited a few days and called them and they said he available. They had him four weeks, long time, so he is my little buddy, a bundle of joy, and i think when im done with radio and all the rest of it im going to spend my time trying to save as many of these dogs as possible. Host sean in hawaii, thank you for holding on, youre on with author mark levin. Caller i am from hawaii, aloha. I agree with most of what you have been talking about earlier this morning, and seeing that it like to know thing that it like to know, if ever existed in our history and how long did it last or does it still exist . Thank you. Host thank you, sean. Guest that is a great question. The answer is, yes, a republic that has ever been established, and what some of us are trying too do is restore it. No, its not perfect. No country is going to be perfect. No government is going to be perfect. But were not talking about perfection. Were talking about completely out of control and getting increasingly out of control. So, the kids and some have grandkids, want to take steps today to try to avert the end of what america wont end but the republic part will expend thats important. No nation is guaranteed existence in perpetuity and none of them do exist forever, but theres never been a perfect society, we just talked about the framers. They werent perfect. But they were geniuses. And they were patriots. And they put everything on the line to establish this nation. And i think that we owe it to the next generation and generations behind us to do everything we can to restore this republic and reestablish constitutional government. We have young men and women overseas, 18, 19, 20, 25, putting their life on the line, one hell hole after not a, afghanistan and other places around the world. And they dont have these discussions you and i are having today or im having with the callers. Theyre there because theyre americans and because theyre there to protect america to protect our liberty and our constitution. And thats what theyre theyre not fighting, putting their lives on the line for obamacare or doddfrank or unemployment compensation. Theyre putting their lives on the line because of america. The American Republic. It seems to was we civilians who arent putting our lives on the line, the least we can do is make the case here at home before its too late, before we hollow out our society and defend our principles. Host steve wheeler, twitter does mark purposely exaggerate his views on radio . His books books and this intervw display more selfcontrol. Guest laughing. I dont purposely exaggerate anything. I am a guest here on cspan. Its like being a guest at a wedding or being a guest at whatever, and you conduct yourself as a guest. Now, cspan is not talk radio. When i do my show, as i said earlier, this program, the host has to have integrity, so if youre as passionate as i am about these issues and the future of the country, that comps across on the microphone. I dont do npr orthos people have to intentionally sit there and speak like zombies. Thats what theyre told to do and thats what they do. I am myself. On the radio, and im myself here, too. Youre asking me intelligent questions so im giving you straight answers. If a kook calls i call him a kook. But im a guest here and i know how cspan conducts itself. Youre watching booktv on cspan2. This is our in depth program. This mark were featuring mark levin. Bruno, arizona, youre on the air. Hi, mark. I enjoy your books immensely. I have all of them. I have a question about the liberty amendments because there was something that ive been thinking about since we have the occupant of the white house who changes laws at will, spends our money, driving us into oblivion, and does whatever he feels like he wants to do, wants to be a dictator, and we have a senate where harry reid is carrying his water constantly. I know that obama wont be impeached. Do you have another idea that can be incorporated into the conviction the state that would allow the people to take other actions to get rid of a person like obama, because obviously right now we dont have a way of getting rid of him, and waiting until 2016 we may not have a country left, and as for the guy that was complaining about the koch brewers, he might realize george left wing organizations that was are out to destroy this country, but i really am interested in your idea. Host lets get an answer. Thank you for calling in. Guest im a big fan thereof the Koch Brothers. Theyre capital lists and halted by the left and see the country going to help and want to do something about it. I want to salute the Koch Brothers and thank them. Now, what else can we do . I mean, i dont know of anything else we can do. The brilliance of article 5 in the state convention process is it bypasses obama and harry reid and boehner and the court and the massive bureaucracy, and somebody might say, well, how is it if they dont comply with the constitution today, obama as an example what makes you think that it will comply with these amendments. Thats the brilliance of the process. Whether they comply or not, the states will decide what they states comply with. So if threefifths of the state overturn a federal statute and obama wants to continue to implement the federal statute, then he is violating the constitution and the states need not comply. So, if youre going to have a president , like congress, that is so lawless now, that they blatantly violate something of that sort, theres no reason they states have toed a their what the to adhere to what the president and the congress are doing. Were making a constitutional argument and the others are not. So, hopefully people will my hope is more people will talk about this process, the more who learn about it, will be compelled to support it. Host from ameritopia you wrote, it was not a revolution of violence. It was revolution by bookkeeping and lawmaking. Inasmuch as is was successful, the power of politics replaced business. This is the basic power shift of all the revolutions of our time. This shift was the revolution. Guest absolutely brilliant. Whittaker chambers, and that comment in particular. The revolution has already occurred. The status or progressive revolution of 100 years ago, were living in it right now, and what i try and do in actually all four of these books, men in black, liberty and tyranny, ameritopia and the liberty amendments, is to discuss it at some length and make the case, and we do live in a largely postconstitutional period. There are some conservatives, quote unquotes, more than likely pseudo conservatives, who are perfectly happy with this and are prepared to accommodate it so they come up with socalled reforms, a little tax cut here, something on the edge over here, but will not address the constitutional issues in the foundational detect defects of the new deal and these other things that it created. So, theres some of that is skissism within the conservative moment, if there is a movement. They quotedded mondes burk speeding the status quo. He supported the revolution. And but the American Revolution was considered rem pretty damn radical at the time, too, and burk supported it. Burk did believe in experience didnt believe in lurching in one direction or the other. He believed in moderation, but the word moderation is being bard bastardized by some that is a trajectory that nil my view fundamentally alter or fundamentally transform, as the president says, our country. I dont think burk would sit still and say we need another tax cut. He would agree with george mason that the government has gotten so much it does, regulations through taxation, and the people need a lawful constitutional, nonviolent civil option. Host men in black, how in the Supreme Court is destroying america. Came out in 2005. Followed by, rescuing sprite in 2007. Then liberty and tyranny a conservative manifesto. Ameritopia, the unmaking of america in 2012, and just this last year the liberty amends restoring the American Republic came out in august of 2013. Mr. Levin is working on another book but wont tell us anything about it. Bruce in oregon, youre on with awe their mark levin. Call