Transcripts For CSPAN2 Were Still Right Theyre Still Wrong 20161119

And doesnt look great for the environment. We have a president elect who says that Climate Change is across from china. Do you have any encouragement i dont think we can talk to this mean about anything. I dont know how you feel about that. Im not the only one. We see that his appointed people in big oil fracking, quail we have made big progress in the past few years i imagine that some of that will continue but we have somebody who is really appointed everybody who doesnt believe in that. I just want encouragement sykes stop crying. I have a few days of crying. Its a very good question. We can all cry in our beer forever or we can pick up and do something and find ways to work with it. I had been working with the Environmental Organization for 50 years now. Weve always been working on our own for a long time. Working to continue. And i have to say its all about finding best practices in sustainability together. The market will take care of the whole business with oil in drilling. It will not become sustainable for them to keep oil into drilling when they have to meet the carbon tax or whatever is can be instituted were to need it to mitigate all of the missions that are coming out. I just spent a week on the pacific west coast on my book to her and i have to tell you those coastal cities states are doing remarkable things. Thats all we need to look at. California is almost 15 alternative energy right now. They are already making a profit on alternative energy. When i was speaking to microsoft in redmond. North of seattle all of those Tech Companies in Silicon Valley and in seattle are going green they bought up half of the stock of first solar. At the amount of energy they put out from their company is so great that they need to go green. This can be costeffective. That is whats gonna with to change the whole things. It will probably change it quicker than you think. Because we live in a capitalist system. It will eventually balance out in the big Drilling Companies cant do it anymore. Its not going to be costeffective. I think they want me to quit. Please a round of applause. Jane alexander. Thank you very much. And again if you would like to have your book autographed please have to the left and past the elevators to the autographing area. Thank you. Your wife jean book tv on cspan two. This is a live coverage of the 30 third annual Miami Book Fair. On the north side of downtown miami. Several hours of live coverage i have. You will hear from david barry. And have it chance to talk about senator Bernie Sanders a lot ahead. I would recommend for you if you want to see the full schedule go to our website at booktv. Org and if you want to see some behind the behindthescenes video and pictures follow us on social media. Coming up in just a few minutes were to show you James Carville. The Miami Book Fair is a week long event anymore. But earlier this week political consultant and author James Carville spoke in his book is called were still right, theyre still wrong here he is from the Miami Book Fair. Good evening everybody and welcome. Welcome to the 33rd Miami Book Fair. We are so happy to have you here. How many of you were here last think. Wasnt pretty remarkable. He was really terrific. We have an Amazing Program tonight we hope that you will make it a point to be here every single night. This year we have a few things you can go to. You can create your own schedule for that. After that weve got the very School Called thing called the porch. It is a place just to go it is in that direction. And theres free music as well. We hope to see you there as well. I will be able to begin to try to cut into anyones time by telling about. But i do want to bring up someone very special. We could not be doing this without the sponsors. Who give us all of that remarkable support for this Miami Book Fair. 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He has a mba from the Harvard Business school and worked in finance until finding out real estate company. He has served on the boards of directors from several forprofit and nonprofit organizations. They are also chairs of the degroot foundation. They support literary art projects. They divided both of them between paris in miami and i can share say this year we can also launch the literary prize for a novella. If you have a secret hidden novella somewhere in a drawer if you want to write one. Youll be able to interest to be considered for the prize. So please welcome charles degroot. [applause]. Thank you very much. Good evening. James carville his political savvy. That campaign was documented in the winning documentary. He have a large sign about the room that said the economy stupid. He is a contributor to cnn and fox. He is married to the political consultant. We are still right. Theyre so wrong. They update his number one New York Times bestseller from 1996. They skewer the gop record over the past 20 years. The living manifestation of a failed party. And judging from our comments you are in for a real non sugarcoated book. So please join me in that. [applause]. Thank you. Its really great to be here at the largest institution of Higher Education in the most diverse institute in the United States. Welcome to the Miami Book Fair. I loved college i really did. The best four years of my life was spent as a sophomore at lsu. How many people are scared. How may people are very scared. See mike youre not scared enough. Its a disaster. Its a disaster. Our president elect doesnt know the first thing about the first thing. And you see his appointment that was being made today you should be scared. Tell me something good. And i say i cant. And you know, what is the most amazing thing since the beginning of modern Political Party 1828 this is the first time that a Political Party has won the popular vote and six out of the last seven president ial elections. You realize it whats getting ready to happen to you in this country has not been off the sit tainted. To appoint outright antisemites to the office next of the president , but they dont have the authority of the will of the people. And thats the most Sacred Authority you can have in any democracy anywhere. And we, and we have the absolute responsibility to expose and educate the public as to whats going on. Because theyre getting ready to run roughshod. They may have the constitutional election to back out of nato and line up with putin, but they dont have the will of the people. They dont have the will of the people. The democrats are going to win this election by two, two and a half million votes. Not even particularly close. So they can invoke anything they want, and theyre going to run roughshod over the Supreme Court, you just stand by. I dont have much that i can tell you, and were being told, well, maybe hes moderate. Oh, please. [laughter] he says im going to, im going to keep the good parts of obamacare and get rid of the bad parts. Oh, really . Why didnt somebody think of that before . [laughter] and write it down. Well, look, hes shown some flexibility on obamacare, hes just going to give everybody everything they, you know . No so, and you would think, and people voted, two and a half million, weve had two successful democratic presidencies that sandwiched a disastrous republican presidency, and were getting ready to have a disastrous republican presidency. He wants to go sleep in his own bed on the weekends. [laughter] he didnt know its 24 7. [laughter] he didnt know the world dont go to sleep. He didnt know that when its noon here, its midnight somewhere else. He didnt know that sunday is just another day in the islamic world. Thats the president elect by virtue of a quirk in the constitution. Thats not the president elect by virtue of the will of the people. Understand that. Understand that. And they say, well, youre just going to oppose because no, im opposing because the people demand it. They voted. They instructed us to oppose. That was the marching orders that we got on election night. No one has said that. And people say, well, you could imagine what people would be saying if the republicans won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College. Whats the matter, we cant talk . Whyd they just get to complain . But they cant, i cant point that out . Im being a sore loser if i say we won the election . If i point out correctly, if i point out correctly we actually picked up house seats, we actually picked up senate seats, am i justing being a sore loserr am i telling the truth . Somehow or another were not allowed to tell the truth. But you and so then he comes and he tells and by the way, the people, and take no solace in this, the people that are going to get hurt the most are most of the people that i voted for, because theyre going to get rid of their medicare, theyre going to run roughshot over them. [applause] every lobbyist is going to go crazy, and do not fault temptation, because there theye people, and they dont realize whats getting ready to happen. And its getting ready to happen. Theyre going to drain the swamp. Theyve got lobbyists on every transition thing that you have. If you think, you think the swamp is the everglades [laughter] let me tell you, thats the everglades and every swamp you ever heard of in your life put together. Ever put together. And theyre coming. Then he was going to, like, he told these people and, understand, this man does not come to office with a list of policies. He he comes to office with a list of grievances of people we dont like. We dont like the liberals, you know, east coast, we dont like this, we dont like that, you know . And by the way, all you coastal elites, all the people that live in gazillion dollar highrises here in florida, hes going to get you back. Hes going to give a tax cut, hes going to get rid of the estate tax, hes really going to kill you, but hes going to fatten you up first. [laughter] the coastal elites are going to do great. Theyre going to do fine. Theyre going to deregulate the coastal elites that want to drill off of the coast of south florida. Highball it, have at it, youll do great. Now, if you happen to live in a place like, well, like all the people in this room, thats subject to global warming, hell probably get you at some point. Thats how hes going to get the coastal elites back, hes going to flood you out. [laughter] i know, i shouldnt be joking about it, but what can you do . Be all you good people cop out here come out here, ive got to give you something to laugh at. [laughter] but, you know, i, you know, and i did the book, i laid it out. People say, well, you know, you were wrong. Republicans won. Well, no, they didnt win, they lost by two and a half million or 2. 5 million, whatever its going to turn out. [laughter] thats my phone. This is essentially where we are. If you look at any fact that you want and by the way, think about this. We have produced donald trump in a nation with under 5 unemployment, 2. 9 growth, with shrinking deficits, with rising incomes. Can you imagine whats going to happen in the future if we dont get ahold of this and get our message out and expose and educate people . Can you imagine what this is . And now were going to be told weve got to cut all these colleges. You know, we dont have the money, weve got to have money for tax cuts, we dont have money for education. All right . You can see it coming. Paul ryans already said were going to reform medicare. You know what it means when they tell you were going to reform america . You know exactly what they mean. Theyre going to take the money from medicare and give it to their donors. You see this coming. You see all of this coming. What and if you ask me could hillarys campaign done this, could they have done that . Yeah, you know . And we can second guess ourselves to death, ill be glad to engage in, you know, second guessing or anything else. But at some point our own people didnt get out. At some point, you know now, again, we won, but we didnt get them out in florida like we needed to. And were going to learn a lesson, a big lesson. This is going to be one giant civics lesson. And what its, what its going to bang into your held is elections have into your head is elections have consequences. Elections have consequences. Elections have consequences. [applause] so the first part of educating yourself, im serious, i laid it right out in there. The facts, the time again and again and again what the growth rate is, what the Unemployment Rate is, what the Economic Statistics are, what the things that we have done. And whats really kind of odd at the moment that, you know, we had under a democratic president were taking this country back from the depths of a depression, a near depression, the worst recession weve ever had, put 20 million more people on health insurance, we got out of wars that we were in, and and we were you would never know it reading the paper doing pretty good in the fight against isis. We had entered, we had started to acknowledge our problems with climate. We had started internationally were out of all of those. Were out of all of those. And so what is our role as democrats . Our role is this, we have to expose, let the public know when theyre ripping and running, let the public know what the effect of what theyre trying to do and educate people and be relentless about it. Be relentless about it. And, again, go back to my question i asked you before. When people say could you imagine the reaction if the republicans would have won the popular vote but not the Electoral College . Whens the last time you heard a democrat raise hell about that . [laughter] think about that. But we won it six out of the last seven times. The public has said we want the United States to make Supreme Court appointments. You know what theyre going to get . Run over. What have we learned from this . We learned if we should have known before, but we didnt cant let it happen again. People are going to get a Civics Education. This country is going to get the best ninth grade Civics Education that it ever got in its life. [laughter] i promise you that. I promise you that. In every appointment he makes, everything that he does, expose and educate. Expose and educate. Expose and educate. Thats what we have to do. Thats our mission. Thats the job ahead. And also when i say educate, educate yourself. Be informed. Fight this battle everywhere that you can. Fight it in the neighborhoods, fight it on the street, fight any place that you see, on the campuses wherever they are. Because this is a time, a very perilous time for the United States. We are being led by a person that knows nothing, who is surrounded by people who have an agenda that is contrary to is the interests of what we believe in. And every person in here that believes in pluralism, every person in here that believes in science, in facts, in knowledge, we have to band together. This man is an affront to the concept of american blurrism. S pluralism. It is an affront to the concept of you would think if you watched animal house and you saw the dean, what did it say on the statue . Knowledge is good. Well, its no longer good. Its not good to know stuff anymore. But this is what this is. And there are people in this country that fervently believe in pluralism, that fervently believe that we are better when we have a pluralistic, diverse country of different people and who believe that knowledge is the basis of good public policy, were in the fight of our lives. Were in the fight of our lives. We cant deny it, we cant sugar coat it, we cant gloss over it. And if you dont accept those two values, then youre not in a fight. If you accept those two values, which i think its the very core of what modern america should be, lets get together and lets fight like hell, lets expose, lets educate. Thank yall very much. Ms. [applause] okay, now im going to make an announcement. This is an institute of Higher Education. The First Amendment applies. Free speech is here. However, if youre going to give a speech and not ask a question, just let us know, all right . [laughter] just say i got this microphone, and im not from wisconsin, but im going to milk it for all its worth. [laughter] okay. Okay . Okay. So what can we do with the two million extra popular votes . Can we trade them for a seat on the Supreme Court . [laughter] what can we do with them . Well, you can blow your nose with them. What you can do is tell is make the moral case that it gives us a moral case to resist. Thats what you to with it. You take it to the higher ground, and you tell people that theyre ignoring your vote. You tell people that when we oppose and were not doing this just for the sake of doing it, were doing it because we have been instructed by voters to do this. When you have the high ground, take it. We have the high ground. Thank you. Very good. And it was a question, and i appreciate that. [laughter] hello. Honored to see you. Im a bernie delegate, and i was just wondering how you think the bernie candidate candidacy would have looked like and what would have happened, how would it have gone . You know, truth of the matter is i dont know, and anybody that supposes they should have, but i would think that any sane person, the prospect of a Trump Presidency should scared the bejesus out of them. And i just dont really you were for bernie in the primaries . Thats your right. Hes thats good. He had a case to make. But what is happening here is an outrage, and i dont know if bernie would have run, if joe biden would have run, if Elizabeth Warren would have run, you know, the truth of the matter is we had a choice, and two and a half million more people or somewhere between two and two and a half million more people voted for us than them. And we have, regardless of what we are, we have an obligation to to oppose this, to expose it and to educate people. If he ran again, would you see him having a chance in 2020 . Im hearing rumors of that. You know, right now ive got a lot to do between now and 2020. [laughter] to fight the good fight, we need a good leader. Who would you like to see heading up the dnc and why . [applause] you know, i mean, Donna Brazile is like my bosom bff. I mean, i like i love donna. I like her too. I dont the dnc will have to make its own kind of pick. Ive never been that involved in dnc politics. Im trying to raise money and trying to work with different groups that are, again, trying to get at the bottom of what theyre trying to do and let people know about it. And i hope we get a dnc that will do what i want them to do, and thats expose and educate. But right now, i mean, i dont mean to be ive just never been involved in dnc politics. Its just not something, you know, ive written books and ive tried to educate democrats under what we have. I know if keith ellison, ive met keith before, hes a very nice guy. I dont know what donna, i mean, if donnas running, id obviously be for her, i just love her to death. I think shes a terrific person. But were not going to rise and fall on a party chair. I enjoyed the premise of your book that were still right, theyre still wrong. But as you point out in the book, it often doesnt matter. Well what i have a question. I had the pleasure of going to a conservative religious college in the bible belt. And like you, i never converted a single republican. [laughter] right. You mention that in your book. Right. The thing that i find the question i have, well, if people are not voting on the basis of whos right and whos wrong, particularly the working class, the white male, then what are they voting for . And arent they looking [inaudible] sure. Well, again, i want you to criticize what im going to say. So to be honest with you, i dont know anybody more different than a working class person than donald trump. Right. That man is more like a robberbaron. Shouldnt we be the question, should we, shouldnt we be pointing out hes not like us . Hes not like you, white middle class people . Thats my question. Okay. And its a very good point. Again, our values are pluralism and knowledge. If people reject that, then im sorry. But, you know, max plank, the great theoretical physicist, said that science does not triumph because it convinces its opponents, science triumphs because its opponents eventually die. [laughter] science advances one funeral at a time. [laughter] id be cynical if i but youre right. And the real tragedy is, is that the very people that you talk about are going to be the first people that are going to be hurt by this. What i think is that once if we do a good job of exposing and educating, then hopefully some will see the error of their ways. But you cant see the light unless you light the light. And thats what were going to do, were going to light the light. Now, they can choose not to see the light, to put it in a more fundamentalist term, but were going to light the light. And were going to play point out how the stuff that theyre proposing affects. And im going to urge the democrats to get a composite of a trump voter, what that persons status is. And in every piece of election, say this is what happened to ben bob. Hes getting the living crap kicked out of him. And you cant blame him. Youve got to say its we didnt do a good enough job of telling ben bob what we were going to do. And weve got to blame ourselves, but weve got to move forward. Hello. Im a democrat, and i do believe that i have the, you know, that we have the moral high ground, but i believe that we gave it up this year with your friend, Donna Brazile, giving questions at the debate, things like that. I dont know whether theyre true or not, but with all the emails, wikileaks, i think that the moral high ground was no longer ours. So when you talk about the future, we need to really focus on people who are ethical, people who are more concerned about the voter than about the donor. [applause] so where are we going to i mean, and i dont know much about keith ellison, but how can we find more moral people . Well, let me, let me start. I worked at cnn for a long time. Im a partisan democrat. If i found out something, i would tell on democrats. Donna brazile is the chairman of Democratic National committee. Accusing her of being a democrat is like accusing the pope of being a catholic. [laughter] [applause] theres nothing, theres nothing immoral, in my mind now [inaudible] theres nothing immoral by donna saying these are the questions that theyre going to ask you. Its not a morality question. I disagree. Okay. Well, thats fine. And i think that hillary was very well prepared and did not need to be fed questions. Again, hillary didnt ask i cannot accuse somebody of immorality when i know damn good and well id do the same thing myself. [laughter] [applause] thats like me telling somebody that premarital sex is um moral. Immoral. [laughter] i am of a certain age where, to me, Hillary Clinton is one of the most admirable and Accomplished Women of my lifetime. [cheers and applause] my question is, where does all this hillary hatred come from, in your opinion . Why do people hate her . Well, look, i think she is a remarkably admirable perp. I think that person. I think that she is a woman person [laughter] that believes in, that at the core of success is preparation and hard work. Which i think is a really, really diligent fact. One of the problems she has is, is that people are, for whatever reason a lot of them good, they cant stand politics. And to them, when they saw her, they see somebody that has been in politics all of their lives. Now, if you would tell me that Hillary Clintons campaign would have put on the best convention that i can remember, would have won the three debates by the biggest margin any president ial candidate has and would win the popular vote by over two million votes and still wouldnt be president , i wouldnt have believed you. But i do think shes an admirable person. But i think that she genuinely believes that youve got to be responsible, you have to study hard, that theres multiple problems that require multiple solutions. And i think sometimes in politics you have to be willing to be more concise and more emotional. And i dont think that was, you know dumb it down . Huh . Dumb it down . Well, you can say that, but i think that she believed and she prepared for everything. You dont have to be like donald trump dumb. [laughter] i mean, like, you know, like i know more about isis than the generals. My favorite he said im going to get in, im going to give the generals 30 days to figure out how to beat isis. Like they never thought about that before. [laughter] thank you. And i think that she, the choices that she made, shes a very, very responsible, knowledgeable person who is literally one of the most admirable people i knew. But she didnt, you know, she wasnt concise, or she wasnt she believed that that was it. By the way, she got the most votes. Hi. Id like to ask about the Electoral College and, of course, you know this is florida, ground zero for fraud in Electoral College, perhaps. But theres a at least on my facebook feed a rumor going around that theres some little known [inaudible] yeah. Theres some little known clause that when the popular vote is for the candidate who didnt win, electors can switch their votes, and the state of maryland has already committed to doing that . I know what youre talking about. There is a, theres a way that certain people are going about that say, and i think very correctly, that you can change it and have the popular vote count without amending the constitution. And what maryland and some states have said, that as soon as states that total 270 electoral votes pass similar legislation, we will instruct the legislature can instruct its electors to vote for who it wants. So by law, the Maryland Legislature will instruct its electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote. So thats what that is. I am kind of familiar with that. Theres a guy in San Francisco whos, you know, been very, very, very big on this issue. Its a long shot. But is there my way to push that . Well, you could. Why is the Republican Party, who is benefiting greatly, or why one of the things the Electoral College does, it mightily discriminates against minorities, because most minorities are in the same, in california, new york. And so thats why were going to win two and a half million, it greatly empowers, you know, and youre going to see a lot of Political Science on this coming up. But thats what the maryland provision is. [inaudible] im familiar with that. I know. I how many, when is the only time that a Political Party has won the popular vote six out of the last seven times since the formation of Political Parties . The democrats in the last seven elections. Educate. Educate. Educate. Educate. Educate. So when you ask somebody about it, say i dont think its fair that we win the popular vote in six out of the last seven elections, and theyre going to control the Supreme Court. Educate, educate, educate. Premise it with that. Following up on educate and expose, i think like a lot of people in this room, i felt totally flatfooted after the election. I felt uneducated right. About anything about trump and what he really meant. I took most of my news from the times and the Washington Post and the usual sources. And my question for you is, i feel betraye i want to know who to blame for being so ignorant to what happened to us and how i was reading three hours a day of this stuff, and i cant believe that i got beat up like this. So where is the press responsibility, culpability, and what can we do forward so were smarter Going Forward . Thank you. You know, i dont want to get in the kind of position to defend the press, because i think theres a lot of things that they do that dont the people, the politifact, the factcheck. Org people, whatever, they really, if you go look there was a guy in toronto, starr, Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post, i mean, the average voter and maybe the campaign should have, like, put out like, did this is a kind of norm that politicians all kind of revolved around. Hillary, bernie, jeb bush, you know, john kasich, all about i want to say its like 20 false, mostly false or something. With trump it was like 60. I mean, no one was even close. And they kept, like, in case anybody wanted to read it. They actually did some, you know now, what i think is they totally, totally overblew the whole email thing. I mean, there was never even comey, who, like, did everything he could, i think its a near coup detat that they did. [applause] even said, no, no reasonable person would say theres any case to make against her. And so i think it was the most disgraceful thing of the entire campaign was the foundation. The Clinton Foundation has been described by the head of Charity Watch is the preeminent philanthropy of our generation. [applause] and because of the press actions with the Clinton Foundation, people are going to die. And if theres any morality in the world for people to go out and do Something Like that just to show that they have the power to do it knowing, knowing that its going to cause people around the world to die is a shame. Do you feel my anger is misplaced when i direct it at the press . I feel your angers what now . No, i think, i think i would give them a passing grade on exposing trumps lies. You feel that way but he gets caught every time and people dont care. It was like the people voted for him again, our shared values are pluralism and knowledge. Values in many states didnt carry the day. Yes, sir . Thank you for coming. [applause] do a little dance, there it is. My question is specifically regarding millennials age we are on a college campus. How many millennial there in the room . I cant see. All three of them back there. I am a millennial, the oldest millennial. My question is this. How do we get millennials more involved, engaged, caught up part of the process. If millennial gave up 3 clinton would be the president right now, how do we get millennials involved . What it would be like when term trump won on election night. Anybody see that tape q we got it around, definitely people. Look. That is a remarkable question and two, i am around do any good to get mad at what they do. I am profoundly disappointed they didnt sufficiently recognize the threat trump posed. I hate to say this, but there is no better education, the mule is going to kick them and they will no. I am hunted by your question. It is a very good question. Unfortunately as is so often the case with young people they will have to learn the hard way. The answer to my question is they have to learn the hard way. They didnt come out and vote this time, maybe hillary could have done a better job on mobilization or whatever but would think the prospect of donald trump would be sufficient to get people out to vote. You would think. As far as advice goes. I go back to what i said. Kicked by the mule and get it moving . You have to educate. Tell young people they are taking money from your future and giving it to their donors. We have to tell young people that the stuff they are doing, tell young people, they will be denied access to birth control, we have to tell young people parents tell people the kind of healthcare they need so we have to do a better job educating young people because they self educate. Thank you. Is there any way to hold donald trump accountable . What if he has conflict of interest, breaks the law . What is my message tonight . I am a man with a message. How many times have i said expose and educate . Expose and educate, expose and educate, expose and educate. That is what we are trying to do, that is our mission. That question didnt go well. It went great, you gave me the platform to talk about it, great question. What does your wife think of the Trump Presidency . [cheers and applause] most women i dont dont want to their husbands to speak for them. I wont speak for my wife. I will get in trouble. I can tell you what i think, i wont tell you what she thinks. Americans hate change, what are two issues you see for the next few years under the Trump Administration . What was the question is being that americans hate change, what issues from president elect Trumps Administration for the next few years . The constitution says knowing trump he may try to seek power without it and be like vladimir putin. We have to be vigilant. One of the issues on the table, i couldnt hear, the issues that you see . The Biggest Issue we face today bar none is climate. Literally, i have no idea how and amoeba could live in south florida or louisiana and not understand what is going on with that the second thing, go back to my essential thing, at least with me and many people but not everybody, pluralism and knowledge our shared values, thought to be good things, they are distinctly under attack. I guess i gave you three instead of two. Thank you. Be change to you think the clintons see themselves as the last hope against the corporate oligarchy and if so did they become the very thing they are against . Or claim to be . Corporate oligarchy . I think under bill clinton we had the best economy we have had under any president. The only time the 70s that incomes actually grew. So i thought i am not exactly sure what peoples problem was with the clinton years . Was it the peace and prosperity . Something really got under somebodys skin. Look. If anybody thinks donald trump doesnt represent the corporate oligarchy, need to get rid of there is a tax and lower the cost of tax and lower taxes on the 1 , all the people who bit about the clintons, you got your wish, thank you. What is your formula for addressing and solving two key structural legal problems . The first is the complete seizure of the redistricting process by the republicans, accomplished very quietly and now memorialized in a book whose name cannot be mentioned on the Family Television hour. But in any event, that is what happens with control of the state legislature, well we wind up with the congress we have. The constitution can be amended with great difficulty but it can be amended to deal with Electoral College issues. It seems to me for both of those questions it is important to have a boots on the ground nuts and bolts ground game for addressing those issues. I will take the second part first under the maryland legislation. I explained earlier that state legislatures say 70 electoral votes follow suit, we will instruct terry lectors have to do that you need a state composite, half of the electorate. Under the constitution to amend the constitution you need two third of the congress and three quarters of state legislature, the maryland solution is a quicker way to achieve the result you want. On the redistricting you are exactly right. There is model legislation that appoints a Good Government way to go about this, rounding up the usual suspects, Miamidade College, you can submit a bunch of different plans and the legislature has to vote it up without. I want to say iowa, a couple states adapted this, but it works better. One of the big problems we cant do anything about is weak win the popular vote because democrats are inefficiently distributed. A lot of times what can we do to help the Democratic Party . Lose. Somewhat of a distribution problem. The Electoral College, it is a little easier than the constitution, there are proposals for redistricting more equitable, but as long as people at the core of the Republican Party, we dont want democracy, the Electoral College does not represent democracy, harsh voting laws do not represent democracies. They know they cant win elections straight up. One thing trump was right, it is a rigged deal, he didnt realize who was doing the rigging, thank you. Be change i have a quick question. How far does our economy have to take a plunder for the rural population to for them not to vote republican when they are getting food stamps, they are about their guns and god, we are going to find out how far the economy has to take a dump, how far it has to take a dump for people in rural areas in this country to start voting for their interests and not against. Thank you. All right. You are a veteran . Yes i am, air force. All right [applause] or smack i am an old marine myself. I have three questions i wanted you to respond to. They are real short. Hurry up. The first one is, i am chairman of the national party. Org, people is this a question or a speech . We have tried to get on the books, to run for election but one that stops you from getting on it legally, the candidates got on this time that were independent and i dont know how they got on. Jesse ventura and john glenn. I call for a question. Next question. It wasnt the first one. To the second one. I got three. The second one is the Democratic Party a parttime party in the sense the people complaining are minority interests but the people who want to run it are not. It is a parttime party like south africa. Opinions are like noses, everyone has got one. You are not asking me a question, your giving me an opinion which is perfectly okay, you have every right to do that but i just got a microphone here and want to give everybody my opinion, that is fine. One more question, final one, alaska and hawaii dont have electoral votes and i have been trying you can vote for them, never show them on tv what the electoral number is. We have a difference we got here failure to communicate. 26 or 29. Thank you, next question. Hard act to follow. Dont know what the statistics are with millennials. If we forget about the older white mail, just forget about them because we wont convert them. They are our countrymen, why would we forget . We dont leave anybody behind. But the millennials. What is the question . Why cant the Democratic Party and the candidates make sure there are absentee ballots mckinney dont want to vote when they are in college or make it a civic duty . Because the simple answer, a simple and satisfying answer, we dont control the florida legislature. Work through education, the foundation i am all for it. Expose and educate. Ive got there are people standing behind you. Forget expose and educate, how much of trumps election is due to the dislike of people like me, People Like Us . Northern liberal jewish. I love you, man. Southern, catholic, old, white, proud democrat, all five of them. How much is personalitybased rather than issuebased . How much is personalitybased, disliking people . One of our shared values, pluralism, if you believe in pluralism you like people for who they are. You dont care our shared values, we have to fight for them. Not everyone shares our values but i love you. Two questions and they are both questions. First, this man with no principles has already reversed himself in the first two weeks on everything from prosecuting the clintons to draining the swamp to building the wall, repealing obamacare, what happens when those who drink the koolaid wake up and realize he cant . What is our job . Expose and educate. We got to tell them it is really crappy koolaid. And we will. Part 2 is what part one was leading up to. Would you describe for us an action plan leading up to the midterm elections . Expose and educate. Can you be more specific . The problem we have is specificity. We had enough of a guy who only used a slogan. You asked the question and i am answering the problem we have is Ten Point Program for everything, we have a two point program, we are going to research, find out and raise hell. After we get asked, we will research, find out, raise more hell. After we do that, we are going to research, find out and continue to raise hell. That is the plan. We dont have its we 10 point plan. That is a two point plan. We always have six sides to the pentagon. We have time for two more questions. Two more, that is it. Go ahead. How are you . Welcome, glad you are here. According to the Washington Post, trump won michigan by 12,000 votes, wisconsin by 27,000, pennsylvania by 68,000, Terry Johnson took double or triple or quadruple amount of votes in each of those states and florida similarly, 37,000 here, and 240,000 votes. Do you have any comment on Preferential Voting where two choices and your first choice doesnt get 50 , and other major countries. And the thirdparty to not be a spoiler. We are up against the wall. We have a full that knows nothing about nothing running the country. And aspirational, facing the constitution, and right now under siege, six bayonets. And we are too diligence, want to solve everything right now, we have got to stop this man, and got run over. That is what we got to do. We have time for theorizing, we dont have time for some visionary structural change, our ass is up against the wall. We got to fight back now and i dont mean i am just saying that. A lot of times our problem, it is not concise enough and not emotional enough. That is why i wrote the book. You mean to tell me democrats are leading job creation, every socratic president the last 50 years created more jobs . I had no idea. I didnt realize that in the stock market and booms during democratic times. I had no idea people, studied the stuff, came up with all that. We have got to quit second guessing ourselves, we have got to quit talking about too many things, got to get out there, tell people what our values are, do it in a way they can understand and that is my point. I dont mean to be rude to anybody, but we dont have time right now to worry about gary johnson. Not gary johnson. My point more or less was 1,007,000 voters made trump president and it seems the democrats do have more voters but the way the infrastructure is created right now he is the president. I will point it out. We got more votes than him. But right now Womens Health issues, we are in a battle. We are under siege. And 100,000 votes hear the popular vote. And we got to write any antisemite next to the president s office. That is happening in realtime. As i speak. Thank you. Of trump is that excited about president obamas surprise the other day, what do you think of nominating him to vacancy on the Supreme Court . [applause] he doesnt know anything. The president tells you about the good stuff about obamacare, no one has told him the only way to have insurance to people that need it is to force people to buy insurance that dont needed. He hasnt figured that out. Nobody has told him. The Republican Party couldnt vote for any single thing obama ever did. Will he vote to put him on the Supreme Court . We got to live in the world here. We have a world to leave and. He loved to put on a show or pretend he is going to try to unify, that is something he might like to do. I hope he does. Stranger things have happened. President obama to the Supreme Court i publicly say i was totally wrong about this man. I beg the forgiveness of the people of the United States. I stand a humble man before you. I had no idea. Thank you so much for coming, everyone. James carville will be signing books outside. Books are for sale outside as well. [applause] thank you all for coming. The autographs out there, we will be happy to meet each one of you. Also Alan Cummings starts at 8 00, we will see you back here for this, thanks to all. Or smack that was James Carville at the Miami Book Fair and we are back live in miami on the campus of Miamidade College on the north end of downtown miami, several hours of live coverage ahead. Bernie sanders is coming up and you will be able to ask him questions and he will be in the cspan room talking about his book our revolution. Dave barry is coming up this afternoon as is Stephen Johnson who writes about technology and innovation and different ideas like that. There will be a chance to talk with him as well. Next up from the booktv room in Miamidade College, james glieck, scientist, his most recent book is about time travel. Time travel a history is what it is called. This is live coverage of the 33rd annual Miami Book Fair. [silence] good afternoon again. Come on in, please have a seat. We are ready to begin. As you see, we have been on time all day long and i know that you appreciate that, thank you. Welcome to this next session. I am Mary Lou Harrison and it is truly a pleasure to have you here at Miami Book Fair. We have many, many sponsors as you heard throughout the morning, but we want to really acknowledge them because without them this affair would not take place. Many thanks to the foundation, to the bachelor foundation, the the grout foundation and all the other sponsors. I also want to recognize again and again and again the friends