About the president but the president followed up with tweets, despite the two will meet sometime first full week of september, after next weekends labor day weekend, the president tweeting i requested that Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan tie the debt ceiling legislation into the popular va bill. Coming from the president which passed for easy approval. In other words, he is attaching strings to raising the debt ceiling. They didnt do so, president says. We have a big deal with dems, holding them up as usual on debt ceiling approval. Could have been so easy. Now its a mess. Only problem i have with Mitch Mcconnell after hearing repeal and replace for seven years he failed. That should have never happened. In case you thought these guys were going to smoke the peace pipe and aarp apparently theyre smoking at Something Else and smoking and smoldering at each other. Something for tax reform near and dear to the markets is another thing, right . Were getting latest indications theyre pushing this back sometime around christmas eve. Fundraiserextraordinaire Noelle Nikpour what it means for the grand ol party and the rest of the country. What do you think, noelle . This is really horrible. To be put into position we dont know what will happen with entire Republican House and senate and yada yada, it is said we dont know if this will be a bill or not, if it will be passed through. One of the things, do you remember, neil . He has a beef with Mitch Mcconnell, but do you remember one of the biggest victories we have is neil gorsuch being on the Supreme Court. Neil thats right. Do do you remember what Mitch Mcconnell did, postponed hearings. Neil we got into yesterday. I have no particular horse in this race or argument here. All about the agenda, whether youre republican or democrat, there are a lot of sound points to this economic agenda being foisted by both men. They agree on broad blueprints to pick up on the Economic Activity which by any measure has been paltry over last few years, well off the lows of the recession, i grant you, but i worry it even comes to pass now and does this get in the way of that . You have got a point there but the sad thing of it is we shouldnt be having this debate. He shouldnt be doing this. Why cant the president work with everybody . Why is this played out nut public so much . But i will tell you with pressure of the fail health care passing two times, didnt get passed, we have got a lot of pressure on this tax reform and you know paul ryan has assured well have the funding in for his wall and Everything Else and everything is going to be okay. This is still not a sure thing and the fact it is not a sure thing is worrisome to not only republicans but to everybody since tax cuts, they affect the economy 100 . You know like donald trump was taking credit for the great market, as well he should, but whats going to happen with this market if we dont get these things into play . What is the market going to do . Is he going to take credit for that . What will happen afterwards . Everybody is looking at the republicans, praying, crossing our fingers we can get this done because it is not what will happen to midterm elections, not what right on all accounts, whether people of your political persuasion or not, fact of the matter, something i raised on the show yesterday with my buddy Stuart Varney i think hope is dwindling these tax cuts get addressed this year. That is my opinion. It is reinforced with on going bad blood between president and Mitch Mcconnell apparently getting worse, not better, then Mitch Mcconnell signaling himself tax cuts could be pushed back even more. I want you to listen to this. I think well produce a much better tax code, that will make a huge difference for our country and it will be done during this congress. Neil did you catch, did you catch the end of that noel . It will be done during this con gas. Yeah. Neil this Congress Goes into next year which means not necessarily this year. Next year becomes very problematic to do that in election year, can be done, not dismissing the possibility but its a lot harder. What do you think . I think he is giving himself some wiggle room, dont you think . And i think he is alluding to the fact there is some trouble, there is some trouble in paradise, where republicans really should unite. Health care i understand, a lot of states and division, but tax reform . That is one of the things on the Republican Party platform the were for less regulation, low taxes, that is kind of what we stand for. If we cant come together with this, this will be really katybarthedoor but i do, when you played that tape, youre right. I think mcconnell is kind of alluding to the fact, we, you know, there might be some pushback and thats really unfortunate and we need mcconnell and trump, especially trump. Really it is trump, to remember Mitch Mcconnells loyalty when during 2016 when he pushed those hearings, we have the big victory with gorsuch. So he needs to remember that. Neil that was before he became president where essentially, against a lot of bad press, i remember Mitch Mcconnell getting a lot of bad press at time, worked all the strings as leader of the senate to push back on the president , then president president s choice for the Supreme Court, paved the way for neil gorsuch. I know we work in a world where, what have you done for me lately. But he had done that in the past, whether you like Mitch Mcconnell or not. Im not casting aspersions on either gentleman, theyre not, gentlemanly, and it is causing problems. Thank you so much, Noelle Nikpour. All of this is kind of stuff that gets in the way of the tax cuts and we keep mentioning tax cuts, tax reform, whatever you want to call it because that is what a lot of folks seem to think the advances are holding up, prospects of taxes but now when you say the president saying debt ceiling measure will be a real battle and he wants to attach serious spending issues to it like more funding for the va, possibly tie it to building a wall between ourselves and mexico, you can understand how that seems out of zing, not own with Republican Leadership who want a clean debt ceiling extension, hike, if you will, much like the president s own treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin who had been hoping for a clean debt selling hike, the president doesnt share that time to ask new york republican congressman tom reed whether he does. Congressman, the sense i get not all republicans are on the same page on this issue of a potential Government Shutdown over this debt ceiling thing but that is led by the president of the United States. What do you think . No, i think were, we obviously will have to take care of the debt ceiling and keep the government running, and neil, what i do believe is happening you will see the rise of governing members of in congress of house and senate on both sides of the aisle, willing to shed the shirtsskins game brought us to gridlock. Work for the American People, that is who hired us, that who we work for and that the biggest opportunity i see the next 90 days. Neil do you think there should be a clean debt ceiling increase . Im open to that, if we have a debt ceiling a serious conversation needs to be had what is causing the debt to go up, how can we fix it . Maybe that is a sweet spot getting members together. I am not opposed to it, you need to recognize what the debt ceiling represents, uncontrollable debt increase going up each and every single day not sustainable. Neil seems debt ceiling is still built on more spending. I understand spending ills which the debt ceiling is placed but the president might want to add by building a wall or more funding for Veterans Affairs which might be noble goals. That is not the issue here. More spending is. Isnt he and others advocating same approach complicating matters, especially the president s case, sir, doing it against the better advice of his treasury secretary and others . I agree with that. That is fair criticism, when youre talking about the debt ceiling we should talk about reforms and budget side of the equation. I think that is where we come down. Everyone recognizes the National Debt is a crisis that is not sustainable. If you use the debt ceiling is as something to negotiate with, why not tie it to something that will fix the problem of the National Debt . To me that is where governing members come in. At the end of the day if the debt crisis hits, who suffers . The American People. If we see that we see a path to the finish line with those members willing to vote and govern. Neil i know congressman, youre in the house and prominent member there, so im asking you about things that involve a little bit of back and forth between the Senate Leader and president , that ajita, continues between the two so it is not eased up. Im wondering hearing that the president and Senate Leader might not meet until after labor day, times a wasting. I hear the senator talking about getting tax reform in this congress, he didnt say this year, this congress, what do you think of that . I still think were going to get tax reform done this year. The reality of the situation it needs to get done this year to get the economy growing for the American People and relationship between Mitch Mcconnell and the president , at the end of the day they share a common bond in the agenda they want to achieve for the American People and tax reform is the number one priority. I think that will overcome any differences two people have. Theyre professionals. Theyre representing the American People and want to get to the common goal of tax reform. Neil do you think the president should be effectively trashing a guy on his own side . Whatever the president does i will let the president answer for. Neil would you do that . Would you do that, publicly go after another republican in such a public way . What i try to do, it is not republicans or democrats. I try to have a sincere conversation to see where the Common Ground is. I think Mitch Mcconnell and president are on the same page. They want to do tax reform and do tax cuts for the American People and that will bring them together. Regardless of what any differences played out in the press. Neil why are they at each other . I have 11 older brothers and sisters, neil, i tell you within the family we have awkward conversations at time but because at the end of the day we have common bond and common goal advancing our family interests, that brings us together to allow us to function. Neil i hear you. I come from a italian family that does the same thing. Some relatives disappeared. I dont know what happened. Thank you very much, neil. Neil were following up on joe arpaio. Remember i talked with him yesterday and the president dangled out possibility of a pardon in arizona . President is getting paperWork Together doing just that. A lot of folks are angry about that. Were keeping eye on certain category 3 hurricane in the gulf. Well be watching this around the clock as well. 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I want you to look at this. So neil when you would round up illegals what was the criteria that you used that became so controversial. What was it . First of all i had the authority, my people, to do it, because we had the authority to act as immigration officers. Number two, there is certain criteria. We didnt go around stopping people because of their color. We stopped them on violation of law in pursuant to that if theyre here illegally, and Supreme Court says today that you can do that, stop people and ask where theyre from. So it is a very controversial situation. A lot of people dont understand it so im fighting it out and well see what happens. Neil all right, now as what we do know is happening, at least at the white house behind the scenes theyre readying paperwork to pardon the guy. You might recall that i spoke to former governor of arizona jan brewer, there should be no rush to pardon. Unlikely he will do jail time and yeah time he would look at that with largely misdemeanor charge, six months in jail, which the 85yearold at this point not have to serve a day. Now, nevertheless, it is stigma of that really sticks in the craw of those at the white house who think the government, and particularly Obama Justice department where sheriff joe says all of this started was simply unfair trying to corral him in on charges that seemed very, very specious to them. Still former Justice Department official tom dupree says the president could be risking a whole lot more backlash than is worth with a pardon. Tom, good to have you as always. What would be the risk, given timing of charlottesville, i could understand that. What would be the rick . The risk here, neil, the president would be portrayed or could be portrayed given the sheriff special treatment. That the sheriff was convicted of criminal contempt. In ordinary case people who are convicted serve their time. There has to be extraordinary reason for a president to step in to pardon someone. The fact the sheriff is obviously acting in an area driven this nation with controversy, i think really heightens the stakes here. If the president were to do it, i think there would a backlash. I dont think that fact is going to deter this president who will do it if he thinks it is right thing to do. I dont think anyone should underestimate the potential backlash if the president goes ahead and pardons the sheriff. Neil leaving the political controversy aside, tom, with what would be the risk president waiting out whatever sentence might be meted out here, might not be any at all. Might not do any jail time and avoid the controversy that way, seeing what the judge ultimately decides . I dont think there would be a lot of risk waiting a few months to see what sentence is handed down. At the same time if what the president is thinking by pardoning arpaio the president can send a very Strong Political message that this conviction was unwarranted, and that the sheriff shouldnt have to bear stigma of conviction so the sentencing is somewhat irrelevant. From the president s perspective the point wipe the conviction off the books and essentially vindicate sheriff arpaio. Neil a lot of president s pardoned a lot of peep, thousands over the years, seems a lot of president s do pardon, final weeks in office, most of the time, there have been a lot of nefarious characters come to mind, marc rich, fugitive finance ear with bill clinton, you know, hundreds of convicts with barack obama maybe unjustifiably in prison too long, im not here to debate, but certainly there have been controversial pardons. So where would this stacks up with them . Well i think this would certainly be one of the more controversial pardonsit took place. It is also a little unusual, you note, neil, historically a lot of times pardons come at very end of a president ial administration for obvious reasons, when a president going out the door he doesnt have to face the electorate anymore, clears his desk and says i will just do it. This is very different because the president would take this step at an early stage in his administration. Neil gerald ford did with richard nixon. That cost him an election we would argue. We know how that turned out