to respond, when they publish photos of these public protests, then they say we don't like the way it's being covered, this is wrong. is the height of hypocrisy. >> julie: the daily northwestern newspaper is separate from the journalism school so there are people there that work there that don't necessarily go to the school. but here's what it says about its coverage. some of our staff members use their directory to obtain phone numbers for students beforehand and texted them to ask if they would be willing to be interviewed. we recognize being contacted like this is an invasion of privacy. so is the issue that they used northwestern's roster, access their telephone list of its students, is that the issue? >> the main issue is that they are being reached out to in the first place and they are using this as an excuse. >> julie: if you are at a protest and you are a student at a school, you're going to be reached out to you that just by your school's newspaper but by