extending her vision out of that. a democratic candidate is looking at against her, a moderate democrat who sees an open. neil: could he beat her in the map on a big way? >> the process doesn't pl-- i think's' the lead of a movie. >> that aoc has a personal branching out. >> i think she will have a problem if she's running for a higher office, outside of the hyper local-- >> she was never supposed to win. the money that came in didn't come in from the democratic party. she got money from everyone she wasn't supposed to win. she not only won and now she's known by three letters. she's one of the most powerful people in our country. neil: normally the road to the white house is a more moderate candidates, normally. the circumstances change as they did fdr in 1932, you could argue