black/white thing. it is a crime versus noncrime thing and i respect the progressive agenda and it is addressing decades, if not centuries of inequity and i get that. you have to stop the murders and the carjackings first. that should be the priority and everything else should be secondary. >> carley: rosalind -- >> i couldn't agree more. it is really not a black and white thing, i think it is just doing the right thing and that is stop being soft on crime. >> carley: and bill, let's take a listen to larry krasner december 6th, he had this to say and it sparked a lot of controversy. watch here. >> it is important we don't let this become mushy and bleed into the notion there is some kind of a big spike in crime, there isn't. there is not.