that's an unusual set of circumstances. but i think the bravery of the men and women of the officers that we saw in uniform there won out. and unfortunately this is getting to be way too commonplace to see this kind of violence against law enforcement. >> jesse: sadly it is. we are not second-guessing officers. i think they did it by the book. how do you defend against something like that a baby being used as bait kind of lulls you into a false sense of security and you get ambushed once you break through the door. i mean, how do you train for something like that? >> well, there is a difference, too, in the response, jesse, is that there was a swat entity that came later during that activation. i think what we saw in the video was more of a patrol response. and swat just by definition special weapons and tactics, we have a little bit more training and a little bit more tools that we can use to further protect ourselves. you know, uniformed officer on patrol doesn't have quite the same amount of tools as a team