ukraine starting in august of 2016. what you are describing, if true, as you said, what you are describing took place in the united states. if there were concerns about what ms. chalupa was doing, i think that would have been handled here. >> do you know ms. chalupa? >> i don't believe so. >> have you ever met her? >> i don't think so. if you worked for the ukrainian embassy, it's possible i met her in a large group or something, but i don't believe i know her. >> are you aware of the role that investigative journalist mr. lish and go played in publicizing the black letters >> yes. >> he publicizing information in a pretty grand way. in august of 2016, and almost immediately coincide with mr.