>> andy: its code for "stay away from warren," i don't think they are worried about bernie as much. joe biden is a sinking ship, it has always seemed to be that -- >> harris: apparently you can see the ocean. >> i have seen the ocean and a sinking ship. biden was never a viable presidential candidate, he's not better now than he was then when they didn't want him -- he's never look like he's up to this and the other thing, people in the trump campaign and on the republican side and i consider myself on that side look at pete buttigieg and say "he can't win." if the 75,000 votes in five counties and three states switched over, we would not be talking about a populist