will support, because the only way we're going to do it is if we find consensus on the federal level. >> it's all about. what do you say to that, sir? well, i mean, i think that with all due respect to her, i've been in debates and i've heard her talk about things. >> and, you know, i think she's indulged in some of these left-wing tropes. i mean, for example, she has chastised pro-life is saying, you know, you shouldn't be talking about putting women in prison. nobody's talking about that. i've not met a single pro-lifer that has ever talked about that. >> that is a trope that the left in the media will use. and yet she's indulged, that she's indulged some of these other tropes. and so i think we've approached this, at least i've always tried, and i think most people i know on the pro-life side, you got to approach this from a position of compassion. >> these are difficult situations that people find themselves in. and i think most women who who end up doing an abortion, they feel like they don't have support. >> they feel like obviously these these fathers are nowhere to be found in this day