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details of a private conversation. but, what we saw over the course of the last few months is a collapse in leadership. what the president has conveyed repeatedly, privately and publicly, is you need to stand up and lead your country. >> the white house maintains nobody saw the taliban takeover coming as quickly as it did. and while they would not comment on the call, they said the reporting also illustrates that. but, at the very least, the call shows president biden was aware of the public perception that the taliban takeover could happen. bret? >> bret: jacqui heinrich live on the north lawn. thank you. let's bring in brit hume to discuss what we are learning about president biden during this crisis. good evening, brit. for 30,000 feet here, what do you think this says about president biden, his leadership, and where it goes from here? >> >> well, bret, i think people have to begin now to assess whether this president was the man, the president they thought he was and would be after all this was the seasoned foreign

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