is seeking to define the race. presidents get re-elected when they are able to define the race and by definition define their opponent opponents. so it is a mix of both. mike: joe biden is representing the more mainstream democrat while warren and sanders representing the more progre progressive wing. how do you expect that battle to sort out? >> i think biden has a real problem. in my opinion he's been running for president for 30 years. the current state of the democratic party has long since passed biden by in policy and direction. if you add up the support of bernie and warren and buttigieg and harris, biden is under water. so people are looking for an alternative, and i don't think joe biden can outsocialize the younger crowd that he's up against, and i think if he tries to do it, it will not be seen as genuine, not be seen as real, nor credible. mike: dave, do you worry about some of those progressive voices and liberal freshman members of
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