-- figuratively because i'm on tv... the fact that one of them was purported to be super traumatized. they come out and they say they should be ashamed of themselves. they should be in jail. where were the people videotaping this? where is the accountability. and makes me so enraged that they were okay to do that. >> what was the goal? to get a picture and posted on your instagram? i don't get it. there was a risk to them and the bears. i think it's awful and people are doing a lot of really dumb things right now to try to get a photo, it's not worth it. >> how does this one compared to some of the other ones. >> as an african-american, we don't do this. this is a white thing. african-americans, we don't go into the wild like that and just grab wild animals.