our pollster power panel, joining me as tom devon, cofounder and president of real clear politics. chris wilson, digital strategy director for senator ted cruz's 2016 campaign. tom, let's start with you. should the similarities between joe and hillary have team biden were read? >> i think they should come and i think you make a pretty good argument of the similarities between the two candidates. at this point in 2008, in the race, democratic primary race, hillary clinton was up 20 points over barack obama. she led that race all the way until barack obama won iowa, and that is when she really started to collapse. we may see a similar dynamic with joe biden. he has two things working in his favor, one was support among african-american communities, very strong, the other is the electability question, which you saw his wife, jill biden, comment on the other night. those two things, if they start to erode, he is going to be in real trouble. >> laura: chris, what's amazing here, there have been so