about the first amendment and free speech. i defend your right, laura, and say what you say. journalists have to be careful that when they are operating in a journalist capacity that they are following their code of ethics and if not the editors and publicists could hold them to account. >> laura: charlie, does that mean -- what they -- we have anchors at cnn that get away with the conduct that if any of us -- they would never work again. now let's move on from the next story. it's lots of double standards and it's absurd. >> so this is a fleet of journalists that donald trump