filming a got milk ad or something. he was a school boy or something. he was mean. i'm a big fan of castro, but that was a good moment. >> the exchange was intense. for pete to get intense, it doesn't happen too often. he mumbled his way through. the second-year candidates aren't really breaking through. and pete hasn't really offered a vision, many of these democrats, they haven't offered a vision of how they want to move forward and help america grow, especially from the terms of what you said earlier, from an economic standpoint. so i thought the exchange was bizarre between the two of them. and pete's trying to take the upper hand on this. but i think it just fell flat. >> laura: this is one of my favorite awards. it's a high bar. all right, tom, the most likely to conduct the boston