one of the things i've noticed in less 15-20 years, as our society has stepped back our schools as i do more and more and more, we provide three lunches a day, counseling services, sometimes we even have to provide clothing for our students. that's only half of the story and i think sometimes people think the job of educators nowadays is simply to be therapeutic and simply to be compassionate. while that's nice, and that's great, we have the pivot at some point and actually tell young people there is one door to the american dream and it is a high-quality education and you have to work hard and you have to do think you don't don't want to do. yes, there is one right answer to a math question. >> laura: what does that due to kids general understanding of the world from which they came and the world around them, if they don't have that grounding in western civilization first and foremost? >> i'm a lifelong civics teacher, i am an unapologetic romantic about this country. i believe not in fatalism and that's what a lot of these ideas are, they are fatalistic, that