far. that is more than double what the u.s. loss in 20 years that is a two week period they run the risk of taking intense casualties to hold those areas. i think that will be a problem. paul: so what do the ukrainians need now in terms of arms from the west? what are they not getting that we should be giving? >> well, paul i think there are two things. i believe heard a lot about javelins and other types of weapon systems. the problem so far as knob and the actual weapons it has been the kit that is gone along with them. those kits need coolant, batteries i talked to a number of ukrainians where the kit is not complete. what they need are complete kits. that's a careful care and packaging pretty think we are also going to need to escalate the types of surface to air missile systems they have including the x300 which is actually russian system that's capable of shooting down russian