—- the brunt of what their parents did or what their sons did. and it is shameful. steve: what such incredible grace in the pain and loss and that is the spirit. here with reaction is detective been civil rights atto attorney, great to see you tonight. thank you for joining us. i want to start by asking you to address this situation i laid out there which right now in america you have some communities that feel they are over police that many that feel they are under policed. how do you think we got there? >> the law enforcement system is not involved as quickly as communities expected. there was quite a few stages. we have seen that through history. the interactions of what law enforcement.