and he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. i think i'm getting kind of old but the thought the whole point of the news media was to get evidence and bring it to viewers or readers and let them assess for themselves like in a country full adult citizens but, no? >> you would think so -- i'm sorry d don lemon say this is the problem with fairness? i think that -- >> tucker: it's so great! ha-ha. >> tucker, look, this is, as you mentioned, a total panic episode we're watching in realtime flailing by the corporate press because, yes, for years now, as you mentioned, over two years, they've crafted a narrative that really is a house of cards. no one really believes that what the media portrays which is that this is just another 9/11, the worst attack since the civil war, no one actually believes that. you look at poll after poll of the january 6th committee which really was in partnership with the media -- i mean, they actually had a former media executive at abc craft the committee's videos that you saw. i mean, it was a total partnership, and yet, it didn't move the needle at all. no one was swayed by the total