they are still 2 million people right now and they have to go downstairs in the southwark every time they hear the sirens. they keep on. but that is the danger. >> neil: so the idea that this could end anytime soon, that does not seem in the cards. >> paul: no, people don't believe that this could end anytime soon. they say they want to retreat to the east and they want to only fight in the east. but they don't believe that. you know? they heard what that replicant was saying. he said, i want to hold ukraine and ukraine is russia. people believe this is strategy what vladimir putin is doing right now to get new soldiers into a text the ukrainian capital in some weeks, months, or whatever. so yes. >> neil: paul ronzheimer, thank
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