Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace

FOXNEWSW Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace November 27, 2017

Fiorina, former head of hewlettpackard that ran for president in 2016. Then, Congress Races to avoid a Government Shutdown. As tax reform goes to the senate floor. Frank you do not know why democrats would not want us to do this by the middle class. Will break down tax plans with senator john thune. Because Michael Flynn is lawyers have cut ties with the Trump Legal Team in the russia program. Will asked our panel what that means for the special counsel investigation. Paul, right now on fox news sunday. Hello again and happy Holiday Weekend from fox news in washington. We begin with breaking news. The death toll continues to rise after militants attacked a mosque in egypt during the friday prayers. 305 people including 27 children, are dead. After militants set off an explosion in the mosque then gunned down worshipers as they fled. No group has claimed responsibility. Meanwhile here in washington, the president meets with congressional leaders tuesday to push for tax reform and try to avoid a Government Shutdown in less than two weeks. But the big story is the series of Sexual Harassment claims rocking capitol hill and beyond. She congressional correspondence Mike Emmanuel starts us off. After four women came forward accusing minnesota senator, al franken of Sexual Misconduct including grabbing the bottom of several of them, he came out with an apology on thanksgiving night sank when i met zimmerman feel badly and for that, i am so sorry. I want to make sure it never happens again. The longestserving member of congress, michigan Democrat John conyers has been accused of rubbing and touching former staffers and admitted a 27,000 settlement to one staffer. An attorney for him said quote congressman conyers has no plans to resign. But a female House Democrat and Detroit Free Press said, it is time for him to go. Enough is enough at this point. When i am voicing publicly is when every single private citizen is saying across america. Then there is a senator Senate Candidate roy moore who has been accused of inappropriate behavior with teenage girls for the president defended him, noting the denial. Roy moore denies it, thats all i can say. He denies it. And by the way, he totally denies it. Charlie rose, a powerful news man who has covered his share of politics lost both his cbs and pbs positions quickly after revelations of inappropriate behavior with young staffers. Let me be very clear, there is no room for this behavior in a systematic and pervasive. Tender establishment joe barton had a skin of his on this week when a former female lover released a naked photo of him on social media. Barton these that he asked Us Capitol Police to investigate. Thank you mike. Gentlemen now we have former ceo of hewlettpackard, Carly Fiorina, who ran for president. Lets start with roy moore and the president involving position on the allegations against the judge. Here they are. The president said in his statement earlier this week that with allegations, they are true then roy moore should step aside to request the principle is that there is no senate seat worth more than a child. One thing is for sure. We do not need a liberal person and there, in democrat. What do you make of the president now siding with roy moore because for one, he says the judge denies allegations and number two, because he says the judge has an opponent that is a liberal. That is politics, isnt it chris . This is all about politics. Thats why when politicians talk about this it does not have a lot of credibility. This has been going on for a long time. Democrats tried to defend their own, republicans trying to defend their own. It is kind like George Washington warned us 200 years ago. The problem with politics is political parties. They only care about winning above all else. Donald trump cares about a vote in the senate. No more, no less. What you think should happen to roy moore and what you think happened to the democrats . Because as Mike Emmanuel pointed out, we have two senior democrats now. Senator franken and congressman conyers are also facing their own allegations. What you think happened to these people . First of all, this behavior goes on all the time and it has for a long time, unfortunately. In politics, in the workplace, in athletics. When we politicize this, it is not my team versus your team. Republicans and democrats alike are guilty. But most helpful thing would be for congress to change its own processes and procedures. If someone was to come forward and allege harassment or abuse in congress, they must go through a mandatory 30 days of counseling, mandatory mediation led by a lawyer who has expressed purpose to protect the institution and that maybe if they are lucky, they get a secret settlement paid for by taxpayers from the treasury. That whole process is designed to protect politicians, democrats and republicans alike to protect the institution and make it next to impossible for a woman in some cases, a young boy to come forward. That ought to change. That will actually help. What you think about these politicians . Do you think if there is an allegation against somebody, and some of these cases, franken has acknowledged them, some have denied them including judge Roy Moore Anton whisman conyers. Do you think that should just beat it . They should just, their careers should be over . You know, i think in virtually all of the cases, there has been corroboration of the womens stories in virtually every case, is not woman transit is not only one woman. It is five or six. They particularly mentioned need to think about in virtually all these cases, people knew this was going on. You cannot tell me that no one knew what was going on with roy moore or john conyers or al franken or charlie rose or roger ailes or weinstein. Men new and woman knew. While we all express outrage no people say should they stepped onto should they not . I think the question Going Forward is, when im going to stop tolerating this behavior . And respecting them and they do it . Because all of these men had been respected. I want to pick up on that because you made a comment this week that may surprise people. I want to put this up on the screen. You said, it will only be a watershed moment if men decide to step you not talk about the men who commit the harassment pin you are talking about the buddies, the people in the office. Why are they key . You see, women continue to step forward. Women continue to fight this. We are all shocked by this scandal for example of the dr. Abusing young gymnasts. But 25 years ago there was a scandal about coach abusing the swimmers. And it all sort of disappeared and he went on to become famous. In other words, we go through these waves. It has gone on for a long time. Men, not much but enough abuse their positions of power in return for sex. And what happens is women step up women continue unfortunately, too many instances, to respect them and who are behaving this way. Every single one of the men who has been exposed in the last several weeks was respected and so, i think men need to decide. Im not going to respect a man who disrespects women. Im going to withhold my respect from him. Unless he respects others. That will be a watershed moment. I want to turn to your story because you wrote a troubling essay this week and i should point out that we have a link to the essay on our webpage, fox news sunday. Com you telling your story about a secretary working way up the corporate ladder. Were you a victim of Sexual Harassment . What was your personal experience . Of course it was every woman i know was. I do not mean that i have been raped or assaulted in some of the ways these women have. But was i groped by a friend of my families . Of course was i propositioned . Of course. Was i introduced as a bimbo . Of course. But i have on occasion, men banging on my Hotel Room Door and then lying about it the next morning . Of course. This is common occurrence unfortunately. And that is my point. My point is not that most men are bad. Most men are good and respectful and many many men have helped many women, myself included. And all women are not victims. But the perennial abuse of power by men over women has been with us for a long time. And everyone knows it. Women know it and men know it. As you are working your way up the corporate ladder, he talked before about men using their power to try to, in exchange for sex. Was that something that was done with you . Where men were in effect saying, you can do better, you can move faster . Professionally if you play ball . Absolutely. I remember having an argument with one of my bosses. I had a very attractive female colleague and he told her that she should do whatever was necessary to get the sale. She confessed this to me. And i went and confronted his boss. Not everyone feels she can confront the man but i have most often confronted men. And i said, you cannot give your subordinate this career advice. It is unacceptable. And he was shocked. He was shocked. I want to ask you about that because most people think of you as you present yourself here now and during the campaign and head of hewlettpackard, a strong woman, take care of yourself. But we are talking about at an earlier stage when you work in more vulnerable woman. Do these moments there and you . Shake you . What was the emotional impact on you . I will take one story. I remember sitting at a dinner with a set of colleagues. We were talking about a very large contract. It was right here in washington dc. And all of my colleagues were men, that was frequently the case. I remember one particular man saying to me that you know when we get to, there was an examination of contractors. They said when it comes time for us to present our credentials, we better hope youre not having your period. You will not be able to present. I remember getting up going into the parking lot and crying in a rage. I felt humiliated. I came back to the table and didnt say another word for the rest of the night. But that night i went home and i thought, no one is ever going to make me feel like that again. So yes, women with all of these emotions and unfortunately a lot of women that come forward recently do not feel they were in a position to come forward. Because men had the power over them, the power of their career, the power of their future. These women, when you watch them come forward they obviously feel humiliated. They are embarrassed. It is not easy. Women have been coming forward decades. The point of my post was to say that it is mens turnout. Weve had these moments before that seem to grab the nations attention. People talk about changing it. You think about i needed help confronting Clarence Thomas during his Supreme Court nomination, bill clinton and monica lewinsky. People say, we have got to stop this. And as you know, this doesnt stop in the moment passes. Is this going to be any different . That was the point of my post. The only way it is going to be different in my opinion is if men change their opinion about these kinds of men. The women have known that this is going on and deal with it. Men have known this is going on and unfortunately, too often look the other way. Not all men but too many men. And i think the problem is that men still can respect men despite his behavior. When men decide, i cannot respect this behavior anymore and power in and of itself is not what earns respect. What earns respect his behavior and leadership and decency and respect for others. Finally, i want to ask you. I want to the back to the president because you had your own moment with him during the president ial campaign when he said this. About you. Look at that face, would anyone vote for that . This is how you responded in the next debate and i also want to play what the president said this week about the harassers being exposed. Here it is. I think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. Trump said. [applause] i think she has done a beautiful face and i think that she is a beautiful woman. And i think it is very very good for women and am very happy a lot of these things are coming out and im very happy it is being exposed. Which one is the real donald trump . You know, we did endlessly analyze donald trump. What i focus on always is someones behavior. How do they behave . Are they leading or they not leading claimant. And President Trump . Well, i think leaders understand that how you do things is as important as what you do. Leaders understand that they need to build support. Leaders focus on solving problems. Leaders serve others. And ahe seemed to think you do not think the president means that test. He will be the first and he will not be the last. Politics is about rarely problem solving, rarely about serving others. Politics is too often about my team versus your team. It has become exports. 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And get to the heart of what matters. He does a total denial. And i have to say 40 years is a long time. This has never come up in eight races. Was the president defending alabama Senate Candidate, judge roy moore against allegations of Sexual Harassment after the president previously said roy moore should step aside if the allegations are true. It is time for our sunday group. Former press secretary to Vice President mike pence, marc lotter. Marie harf state Department Official in the Obama Administration. Catherine lucey covers the white house and the associated press. Guy benson of townhall. Com. Catherine, what can you tell us about the president s change of position and decision to side with roy moore after originally saying that if the allegations were true, he should step down. Now saying he has united and besides, his opponent is a liberal. Why did you change . There were a couple of things. And as you heard, from the previous guest this is deftly part of it. He also does adhere to stress the idea that these are decadesold allegations and questioning whether they are true or not. So he is really suggesting that it might be an issue. Is also interesting that we have seen the president and his daughter is and to he and his daughter are saying two different things. The president seems to be saying that he is comfortable with roy moore. This week, lee portman said she was 14yearold when roy moore touched her inappropriately. She told her story on television. Here it is. Basically laid out blankets on the floor of his living room and proceeded to seduce me. Mark, youre so close to this white house. You are the former press secretary for Vice President mike pence. What you think the president change his mind and decided to side with roy moore . And what you think the chances that this is a special election he will go down and exit campaign with roy moore . I see no information i do not think he will adopt alabama. That is not what im hearing from my former colleagues inside the white house still. Really what this is going to come down to, the same thing that most elections do. What is going to the polls in alabama in a couple of weeks. They will weigh the allegations, they will also take a look at the record and whether they can or they want someone representing them in the United States senate who is proabortion, they can be an ally of Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi and trying to block the president s agenda. The way the interests and cast their votes and make a decision. I guess my question is, it seems that that the white house, a pretty good position where is if it is true he should step down and stay out of it. Then the president changes that says he decided to get into it to the extent of saying we do not want a liberal in the senate and these are decadesold allegations. I think is pretty clear that judge roy moore is not going to step down. He has said that he is not going to and his aim his name is going to be on the ballot. At this point it is in the hands of the border of alabama. I think you are the president said that while these are very disturbing allegations, you also have to take a look at doug jones is record. I know democrats and so

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