Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. About Mollie Tibbetts. The trump organization, according to this indictment, said Michael Cohen pled guilty to lies saying that the money it reimbursed Michael Cohen for paying off Stormy Daniels was legal expenses. Thats a lie. That is dishonest. Thats a violation of law. Isnt that why you hire an attorney. To give them the money so they do it legally and lawfully . Then you list it as paying off somebody for their silence, not as legal expenses. It went to her. She is not a lawyer. He is a lawyer. Is that what mark elias did with the Dossier Money . All those millions of dollars, did that get fully disclosed . No, they were paid to attorneys and those attorneys went and funded this dirty dossier, right . They werent trying to buy anybodys silence . They were trying to by a dirty dossier. Can we be spared the argument that this was done not because
donald trump was running for president , because he wanted to be spared any embarrassment with his wife, something he did with Stormy Daniels in 2006. By some coincidence in october of 2016, all of a sudden, that embarrassment was going to do him in . Please. One of the things, dan, i am concerned about is the proximity of lanny davis in this situation. Here you have somebody from the clinton orbit. All the attorneys in the world and they go get lanny davis. Is that suspicious . These are possibly the two dopiest lawyers on the planet, cohen and lanny davis. Lanny davis convinced another lawyer to plead guilty to a crime that doesnt exist. Its incredible. No matter what richard tells you about these fec violations. I ran for office. Congressman, you ran too. I lost. You won. Stinks being on the losing side. But im pretty familiar with
election law. This is not a crime. This is at worst, at worst a civil violation. I dont even think it is bad. Me running for office, i can donate to my campaign unlimited sums. Yes, i would have to report that. But this is debatable if this was even a campaign payment. Why . Richard is trying to debate it right here. Lets be honest. You have no idea why donald trump paid this money. You can speculate. Fair enough, what youre doing. You can say he wanted to spare embarrassment. You dont know that. Can i just say one quick thing to him, the same people who would buy the fact that donald trump meant to say would or wouldnt to Vladimir Putin would believe the notion that on october 25th he paid off Stormy Daniels from something ten years ago and having nothing to do with the president ial campaign. that same person would believe that. Nobody else in the country would. I didnt is Stormy Daniels russian or kremlin connected . Do you have information we dont . Its a serious question. Do you have anything . If youre asking me well see. I got to switch gears here a little bit. Jason lanny davis said something pretty important. Listen from this morning on msnbc. Can you say definitively whether you know Michael Cohen was in prague in 2016 . Never, never in prague. Never, never in prague. Ever. Ever. Just let your viewers know, the dossier, so called, mentioned his name 14 times. One of which is a meeting with russians in prague. 14 times false. Jason thats a pretty strong statement. Going back to the dossier. David, as you look at this, how do you read it . Its a pretty important development. It is an important
development. Just as lanny davis said this morning on americas newsroom, the reason he was willing to take Michael Cohen on was because Michael Cohen wanted to take down President Trump. Look, Gloria Allred tried to use personal information during the 2016 campaign to defeat donald trump and she wasnt successful. What this really means is in 76 days, if you Want Congress to spend two years on investigation and on impeachment, you vote democrat. If you want the congress to focus on job creation policies, securing our border, and annoying the media, you vote republican. Jason last word. Ten seconds. Mostly, david, what the public wants is a check on donald trump. Rightly or wrongly, i think thats what the polling is telling us. The fact that the first two people in congress who endorsed his campaign are now criminal defendants, i just think theres a sense of corruption that the public wants to at least put some brakes on if possible. We will see. Jason bob menendez. Thank you. I appreciate all three of you for joining us tonight. While cohen and manafort are facing serious prison sentences, everyone in Hillary Clintons orbit is getting off scotfree. What about the surveillance of members of the Trump Campaign . No charges filed on that and no evidence that the Special Prosecutor is pursuing that. This all sounds like a twotiered system of justice to me. Raising questions, is the Second Special counsel needed . Joining me now for reaction, former u. S. Attorney Kendall Coffey and bryan rotella, ceo and Senior Partner of genco legal. I appreciate you being here. I want to get your perspective as attorneys. This whole issue of attorneyclient privilege. If you would go out and hire an attorney to do something, i presume you do it to make sure that its done legally and lawfully. You have some protections in being able to give that information would make those things move forward. As you look at this situation, kendall, isnt that a plausible story or scenario . How does that only fall apart in the cohen situation . Thats why we can charge the big bucks. Clients trust us with confidentiality. They trust us with figuring all this out. Campaign finance laws are especially complicated, especially federal Campaign Finance laws. I strongly suspect that not only did the president have no idea someone might put this on a Prosecution Radar Screen some day, but i doubt Michael Cohen did. Whats being talked about is a federal crime, unsuccessfully raised against john edwards. You remember that years ago, discredited as a theory. Most people think if he use personal money that goes to some private person in order to deal with personal issues, thats not a campaign contribution. Jason bryan, are we supposed to believe every conversation now that donald trump has had with his attorney is somehow part of what the Special Counsel gets to look at . Isnt there some sort of limitation . The attorneyclient privilege isnt just waived on all these issues, correct . Yeah, jason. Look, for your audience, anyone who heard this allocution Michael Cohen gave yesterday, allocution might sound like something from the sopranos. I am italianamerican. Folks would get up in front of the court and attest there was a thing called the mafia in the United States. Im not sure if the president should nickname Michael Cohen either better not call saul or captain obvious. Its pretty obvious that what he said yesterday, the president , women he was having relationships with outside of his marriage that he thought that might impact his view, folks view on the election. Nothing criminal about that. Getting to your question is a lawyer, attorneyclient privilege is one thing we have. Lawyers have terrible reputations. And unfortunately we have it for a reason a lot of times. It looks like donald trump has found himself in the Jurassic Park of lawyers. Im waiting for the next Raptor Lawyer to come out. Between lanny davis, and i was listening to your last segment, the stuff he did in the 90s, to some of the things that were seeing now with cohen. And also, lets not forget that jim comey is an attorney. You know very well, jason, look with that attorney dated his findings back on july 5 of 2016. When he found that Hillary Clinton was quoteunquote extremely careless with her emails which by the way was a standard change by our favorite fbi character, peter strzok. Jason a whole nother set of subjects. What is highly suspicious for me is that Donald Trumps former
attorney suddenly represented by somebody from the clinton orbit, lanny davis. Lanny has a duty and responsibility under the law to protect his client, but i want to play a clip from lanny davis here. I want you to ask yourself at home is lanny davis working in the best interests of his client, mr. Cohen, or is he working in the best interest of his own personal political beliefs . Watch this clip. Will Michael Cohen seek a pardon from the president of the United States for any of this . The answer is definitively no, under no circumstances since he came to the judgment after mr. Trumps election to the presidency. That his suitability is a serious risk to our country. Certainly after helsinki, creates serious questions about his loyalty to our country. His answer would be no, i do not want a pardon from this man. Jason are you kidding me . If you are an attorney for
somebody who is now pleading guilty to a felony, you wouldnt accept a pardon from the president of the United States . How in the world can you make a case that thats in the best interests of his client, mr. Cohen . Kendall, what are your thoughts . Well, i think it sounds like positioning. I am sure lanny davis had some conversation with his client as well as his cocounsel before he launched into that. I think anybody would accept a pardon from about anybody who was president. It is so much better than the alternatives. Jason i think he is doing it for political posturing. Bryan, what is your take . I think it is comical lanny davis is Michael Cohens lawyer. For folks that may not remember this, lanny davis was as entrenched in the 90s with the clintons as episodes or
friends and block buster video. He is one of their best friends. Thats the attorney for Michael Cohen. The fact that he said what he said, which i dont believe is a crime. Captain obvious, something about President Trump, and thats all the evidence weve seen today about anything that has to do with President Trump in this investigation, i think it raises a lot of questions. To folks in america wondering what about all the billable hours in the Mueller Investigation . It is on the taxpayers dime and i think theyre probably pretty sick of it. Jason i would love to find out who is funding lanny davis and his political motivations. Gentlemen, thank you. You wouldnt know it by watching msnbc but there were new developments in the Mollie Tibbetts case today. Ed henry will be here next with the report. L be here next with the report. To rent a movie . Even here . Weve got you covered. Now they are all yours. To take on the go. On any screen. Bingo alright and watch whatever you buy. Wherever you are. Head to xfinity. Com stream to start watching. Simple to rent, easy to buy, awesome to go. Jason a tragic story. As a parent, i cant even imagine what went on in iowa and what that family is going through. A tragic story out of iowa. College student Mollie Tibbetts found dead yesterday after a 34 day search. We had a lot of hope they would actually find her, but they didnt. Her alleged killer, an illegal immigrant, was in court for the first time today. Ed henrys here with the latest on this terrible, tragic story. It really is. Jason, good to talk to you. New tonight, democratic senator
elizabeth warren saying she knows its hard for the family of Mollie Tibbetts to deal with this tragedy but the nation, she says, should focus instead on what she called Real Problems like Illegal Illians being separated at the border from their kids. The president is firing back with a video on twitter that says its Mollie Tibbetts who is now personally, permanently separated from her family. Cristhian rivera, the illegal alien charged with firstdegree murder in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, appeared in striped prison garb and shackles in a county court in iowa. I. C. E. Agents say he is from mexico, has been in the u. S. Illegally for up to seven years. Police say rivera confessed that on july 18, he followed Mollie Tibbetts during her nightly jog. She pleaded with him to knock it off, stop trailing her. Warning she would call the police on her cell phone. Rivera claims at that point he blacked out or when he woke up, tibbetts was in his trunk with a bloody skull. Police say he led them to a corn field where they found what they believe to be tibbetts body. Rivera worked at Yarrabee Farms not far from there. An official initially claimed they had put them through Everify System but then clarified that had not happened. The president , as i mentioned, tweeted out a video expressing his sympathy to the tibbetts family and saying this case shows massive reforms of the nations Immigration Laws is simply longoverdue. We screen every applicant through the Social Security administrations Social Security number verification service. In addition, we ran that information to the Verification System and the information came back verified. Our employee was not who he said he was. Nobody has laws like the United States. They are strictly pathetic. We need new Immigration Laws. We need new border laws. The democrats will never give them, and the wall is being built. We have started it. But we also need the funding for this years building of the wall. So to the family of mollie
tibbetts, all i can say is god bless you. Jason with that video as well as the president s mention of tibbetts at the Rally Last Night west virginia, a Defense Attorney said in court today given all those comments, at the highest level of government, the media should be blocked from the courtroom to ensure a fair trial. The judge denied that move, meaning its going to get a lot of media attention. Jason good decision from the court. We appreciate you joining us. Very upsetting. I would like to note fox news is the only Cable News Outlet to air the arraignment of mollies alleged killer. Joining me now is francisco hernandez, an immigration attorney. And art arthur, a fellow at the center for immigration studies. When i was chairman of the House Oversight committee, art arthur was an employee there for some time. A good one, at that. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Francisco, i want to ask you, do you think its legitimate that news outlets cover this story . I think news outlets ought to
cover what they want to cover. I dont think we can blame 11 Million People for the murder of one person. Jason nobody did that. Name one person. Ive never done that. Who blamed 11 Million People . You just did. The president just said that Immigration Reform is long overdue. Jason do you agree with that . I do agree with that. We have been saying that for 18 years. Whats the problem . Why are we even here politicizing the death of a young lady . You are making money and getting ratings on the death of a young lady and trying to blame 11 Million People in this country for the murder of one person. Jason you dont think its relevant this person is here illegally . It is relevant the person committed a murder. It doesnt effect 11 Million People who the president agrees we ought to have an immigration form. Why are we mixing the two . Jason do you agree that if this person wasnt in this country, this murder would not have occurred . We dont know whether that would have happened. Jason no, we wouldnt. The answer is simple. It would have never happened. If he was not in this country, he wouldve never murdered that young lady. All right, i will give you that. Lets reform the law. Is that going to stop the murder . Its not. Stop politicizing it. Jason how was it politicizing . Let me show you this poll. Francisco. Look at this poll that was done by gallup. Survey of over 1,000 americans. Put this poll on the screen. The number one issue that americans view is the top problem facing the United States of america immigration. The number one issue. It is legitimate. Francisco. What happened to the wall and mexico paying for the wall . Jason you build that wall, Families Dont Get separated. They dont get separated. And they dont come here illegally. Are you saying this murder would not have happened if you build the wall . Yes. Because he wouldnt be here illegally . He had been here long before trump came along. Jason because we have an open, p