A talk show focusing on government, politics and the impact of the populist movement in the U. S. And around the world. Global thinking. It was reported that tech giant, google is working with the Chinese Government to develop a Search Engine that implements the regimes censorship of information it doesnt like. This is part of googles plan to get back into china after pulled out in 2010 in protest of the Government Hacking of gmail. This stories very personal for me. The china part is personal because my parents are hungarian. I know about oppressive communist regimes. That is what todays train is. The google part is personal because my wife once worked there. We have a very comfortable life as a result. Some of googles top executives are close friends. When i think something is wrong, i will say so. This is not just wrong, shameful. Its not the whole story about google, use it all the time. Im sure you do two. Googles products are useful thats why it is drone big. And horrible. The world banded together to isolate south africa, especially with sports but also financial financially, to try to move them away from the apartheid regime. That worked. Were now in a situation with a global argument has been made that there are no borders in general. That has helped facilitate the idea that working with chinas no big deal. Part of the argument for google internally is, we want to be competitive. Apple is also in china. Apple with its icloud partner in china actually works through the chinese telecom. In the Tech Industry, bloomberg has reported that china is taking active moves to nationalize the entire Tech Industry there. You have google deciding to move in as china is controlling and certainly with the tech sector. Google, with whatever they do. In addition not just the search
engine, it is also the cloud based Server Dynamic that they want to move into china. That would also be involved with the chinese partner, which means china would have access to whatever it is the data on that server. So, it is about facilitating this dynamic, tierney and doing so with the willoughby and an American Company and american values. It is facilitating a tier near that all of us should stand up against. Steve i love you for that comparison with south africa. Youre the first person i have heard say that and youre exactly right. Everyone was up in arms. We have boycotts against the apartheid regime. Anyway, congressman, i know you are not literally the government. You are the nearest thing we have to it. Shouldnt this be stopped by our
authorities . Should congress get involved in block things like this . We just revamped that process. That primarily works at Chinese Investment in the United States. If the chinese are going to make a massive investment in Artificial Intelligence we can look at that. This is an American Company going to china. The experience of other companies dealing with china should be warning enough. The korean conglomerate owned real estate in south korea where we wanted to put our missile battery system. The chinese objective. In order to coerce, they shut down 122 businesses they own in china. Setting up safety regulations. This is one example of the course away they use economic power. What they extract in return for economic access. This is troubling. They do. Steve what did he do . He was an ex cia operative based in beijing and arrested two months ago. We learned the reason that 20 or so of our key assets in china were either executed or imprisoned because he gave the names of them to the beijing government. He was a u. S. Citizen with the chinese background. We know it chinas doing and what google does. Why are these companies abusing rights, human rights and free speech or facebook blocking ads. The core of the problem is that in a brilliant fashion they threaded the needle between left and right. They said that you are openmarket people. You dont believe in antitrust legislation. But us get bigger and will make more money and adjudicate. Some of the points you will be making. Last week swamp watch took on chinas meddling in our democracy. The response was overwhelming. In part two we expose more corruption. Up next, President Trump said there could be a Government Shutdown if the border wall is unfunded. Dont go away. Because he hid his customers gold in a different box. And the bandits, well, they got rocks. We protected your money then and were dedicated to helping protect it today. Like alerting you to certain Card Activity we find suspicious. If its not your purchase, well help you resolve it. Its a new day at wells fargo. But its a lot like our first day. We are going to start to get. Were either getting it over closing down government. We need border security. That was President Trump continuing to stand by his threat of a Government Shutdown before the Midterm Election to force congress his hand into funding the wall. Tammy, can i come to you first. Ive heard people in the last few days say the president they support him if they would just shut up about the wall and immigration and focus on the economy thats a good thing to do. Just keep talking about that. Gallup has a poll on the most asked question and the most important problem that americas think we are facing. Last month it was immigration. Then, poor leadership in government, then the economy. The president has had some
success with the economy. It goes back to the reagan question that matters to all americans. It feeds into whether not we have a future and what your childrens lives will be like. Which is, are you better off now than you were four years ago. That speaks to a range of issues. The economy speaks to the level of freedom we have. The fact that immigration is a top issue, not because people dont think our borders are open enough. Within the conversation that is comes as the campaign and through trumps administration, there is a realization of the danger it presents, the impact not just with safety but National Security and the economy. Also with the nature of how strong we are in a world that is clearly still dealing with problems left over of the past eight years of nongovernment. The economy is clearly important. He was elected not because of slogans, but because of policies. Policy about the economy, about
taxes, primarily about the wall. That speaks to all of the issues that matter to us. There is one slogan, sit promises made, promises kept. The wall speaks to that. When you think about what matters in the midterm, it is those three issues. Its immigration, its about leadership and this is why he is strong insane he might want to shut down the government. People want action. Not any action, action on the promises made that speak to what improves our lives. The president owns those issues. By the way, russia when it comes to that, doesnt even register on the gallup poll. So, those issues the left are moving doesnt matter, the president issues do and immigration is at the top. Steve victor, i would like your academic perspective on the issue of the promise. I agree with tammy, probably the
most wellknown of all of them. But this build the wall was so central. He made the promise and he Needs Congress to deliver. What democratic constitutional way of thinking about this. He is an election that is 50 50. His chances of keeping the house. He needs a signature issue. Immigration is one issue he has not delivered on, at least formally. But he does not have the votes. Even with the Republican Party doesnt have the votes to build the wall. He also knows if you shut down the government the people that propose that idea get blame. His own people do not want him to do that. He has to square that circle to get people energized. Steve if it doesnt happen, it further undermines peoples faith. A big promise made. I think four out of five people will vote for him that voted for him in 2016. But he needs five out of five. He needs to get them all on board. One thing he might to assay, we cannot quite to the wall right now, he doesnt have the votes. Maybe if he did an Executive Order and said anybody in the United States who is here illegally, whether residing here illegally cannot send money back to a foreign country without 10 tax on it. So, were sending 30 billing to mexico and remittances and 30 billion to central america. Much from people here who many of them are on public assistance but here illegally. That would raise about 5 billion a year. And use that for the wall. Steve what you think of that . I think thats a good idea. I have to explore the details of that. I do have a crazy idea. Rather than why not allow
members of congress to go home to campaign for all of august and potentially all of october leading up to the election. Knowing that the issues remain unresolved. Its absolutely absurd. People in d. C. Confuse campaigning with legislating. We need more legislating. If you do your job your voters will reward you for it. People dont want to do their job. They want to raise money and blame someone else. Keep us there. Steve will talk about that. You have an interesting idea. It seems to me that its another example of these words. I read that paul ryan may be six months ago said we have to build the wall and made a video with helicopters flying over same were going to build the wall. Theres no energy for republicans in congress to help the president deliver his promise. Thats why this is an interesting message. This is like part two of the trump reformation. If you really want this to
happen and work, he has got to get his people in there. They promise the wall just like they promised to repeal and replace obama care. This is why theres a low Approval Rating of congress. They have lied to us for votes and took our money based on certain lies. People want clearly what the president has promise. Part of the rhetoric, everything is a negotiation. His rhetoric about shutting the government down is a message to mr. Oconnell and of course paul ryan is a lame duck, he is moving out. If we have the house and you have someone like jim jordan was the speaker of the house, things could change. All of it is both political and sending messages to congress over what the president is willing to do. He won the shut down last time when it was about daca. There is a sense that can be accomplished again. The bottom line is, he wants
results versus the politicking. If anyone can get it, it is him. Steve for the reasons we have been discussing, everyone is sick of congress. Can anything be done to make it work . Our guest has a plan to do that. Thats after the break Liberty Mutual accident forgiveness means they wont hike your rates over one mistake. See, Liberty Mutual doesnt hold grudges. For drivers with accident forgiveness Liberty Mutual wont raise their rates because of their first accident. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty
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incumbents cannot campaign challengers couldnt. Time is money. Under Citizens United, the Supreme Court has said the federal government cannot tell you how to spend your money. For a Person Nodding Congress the person is going to be telling the challenger. By the way, on this day you can campaign and on this day you cannot. I dont think that will be constitutional. Steve hold the response for a minute. Let me talk to tammy. That was one of my main issues as well. The bill tells challengers they cannot raise money. One of the biggest problems is the money differential. Incumbents have these gigantic chests and newbies come in and have not a lot of anything. They really do have to fund raise. You have someone who might have millions of dollars in a war chest and some new person has to really raise money every day to be remotely competitive. That alone becomes problematic. I would suggest, may be a good
way to start and i think its a great conversation, there are already only working two or three days per week. If its about going to work, maybe we need to make them work like the average american. At least five days a week. Instead of a monthlong vacation, maybe it is a two or three week vacation per year. They would be working i can raise money. Frankly, a lot of people think Congress Working and passing legislation is not a good idea. We need to pass less but better. Lets not mistake volume with quality. I agree with what tammy said. I also have a piece of legislation calling do your job back. This would mean that they cannot go into recess without doing general order. Were in that situation again where people can hold for example the Defense Department budget hostage to other priorities and we wait to the
last session. I do think thats a separate an important piece of legislation. On the Citizens United concern we do place limits on the ability to fund raise right now. Your ability is capped. I cant ask you from my office and washington, d. C. Im interested in any issue. Im open to an amendment that we get at the issue of a challenge are not being as restricted. I think thats a real problem. The incumbent reelection races higher than turnover in some european monarchies. I would just say that people in general hate congress, but they like their individual congressmen. Thats why 94 keep getting elected. When they get out and schmooze, the people who mean talk to them, they love them. They learn from them. The congressman thinks hes working harder on fresno than he is in washington. It will be hard to tell constituents that guy driving all over and meeting these groups, he is really goofing off and raising money. Steve tammy had a Crucial Point which was, quality not quantity. I just want to ask you, we talked about this a lot. Seems what youre really at the forefront of trying to do something. Are you a lonely voice . To feel like you have allies . I do not have a lot of friends. I actually says there is a sense of shared commitment to reform among the newer members of congress. On both sides of the aisle. I wrote an oped with a democrat
from silicon valley. We had some similar overlap when it came to reform idea