Bring section 8 usc 1324 charges or any criminal charges against state or local officials. I believe the request for made. The department of justifiable is reviewing what avenues might be available. Martha the answer to that is yes they are looking into it. Good evening, everybody. Im Martha Maccallum and this is the story. Also tonight some reporters at the white house incredulous as the white house doctor declared that the president is in excellent mental and physical health. Watch this. Can you tell me how a guy holler all those diet cokes and never exercises is in as good a shape as you say he is in. Its called genetics. I dont know. Martha Everyone Wants to get on that plan. He rarely sees the president when he terms as stressed out conditions. He has the ability to wake up every day and sort of reset when he is faced with the pressures of the office. More to come on that fascinating afternoon News Conference today. The president no doubts is going to need all of his faculties as the pressure is now mounting this week to shut down the government. Something democrats used to think was a pretty awful idea. I call them legislative arsonists. They are there to burn down what we should be building up. Its really a tantrum. Its a tea party tantrum. You either give me my way or were going to shut down government. Martha now they are reportedly considering that possibility. Just moments ago the white house responded to democrats saying we dare you. Go ahead and try it chief National Correspondent ed henry at the white house with this huge back story tonight. Good evening, ed. Ed martha, great to see you a senior official told me few minutes ago theyre all but daring democrats to shut down the democrats over daca as i get explosive new details about Last Thursdays meeting here on immigration that suggests the white house is planning to take a very hard line in these negotiations. Lets first talk about that hearing today you mentioned that was supposed to be contentious because it was
going to be all about the president s plan to build a wall. Instead got fiery about what he said or didnt say behind closed doors. Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen held firm in saying Last Thursday she did not hear the president utter the word shole leading corey book tore charge what he called here silence and am near shah made her complicit in the president s comments. Nielsen trying to pivot and change the narrative and maybe send a signal to the president s political base. Saying that he is taking action to crack down on illegal immigration. The secretary announcing, as you noted, the administration is talking to federal prosecutors now about criminal charges against officials in Sanctuary Cities all around the country if they refuse to follow through on federal orders to deport criminals. Also new today, the Department Of Justice revealed its going to try and go directly to Supreme Court to fast track its appeal of a federal judges ruling in San Francisco that new Daca Applications can start. Meanwhile republican Lindsey Graham today charged all
that dramatic turn from one week ago today when the president gathered leaders from both parties from the cabinet room and said he wanted a deal where he took care of the daca kids, quote, with love while also tightening Border Security. Graham charged that Last Thursday morning around 10 00 a. M. He and democrat dick durbin called over the president to remand on a bipartisan deal they h by the time they made it to the oval Office Around noon Last Thursday, someone on the white house staff like Senior Advisor steven miller, a hardliner on immigration, had convinced the president to turn against the deal. Heres graham. Something happened between 10 00 and 12 00. I like secretary nielsen, she is a nice person. We will get to the bottom of this. Here is what is going to matter. How does it end . How does it end . Does it end with a government shutting down . We cannot do this with people in charge at the white house who have irrational view on how to fix immigration. Senior Administration Official just fired back to me moments ago that is not how this played out. This official said graham and durbin begged for Oval Office Meeting to present their own deal that went around framework that House Majority leader Kevin Mccarthy was already working on. This official declaring of graham he tried to sabotage the framework. Nobody knew what was in the plan graham planned. President was frustrated and hit him with questions and lindsey had no explicative answers. And the president shut him down. They are not going to support a budget deal unless there is a clean daca bill in there. This senior official said we can call that bluff all day long. They are basically digging in here saying they will give a little bit on daca, but they have to have the wall. They have to have an end to Chain Migration and also an end to that visa lottery program. So they are digging in here tonight at the house, we will see how that plays out, martha. Martha breaking news, ed, thank you very much. Here now with moammar continue omalley former Maryland Governor and 2016 democratic president ial candidate joins us tonight. Good to see you tonight, welcome. Thanks, martha. Thanks for having me. Martha why cant they find Agreement Ground here. Well, i hope they will. I think, you know, i dont often say this but i agree with Lindsey Graham i think that probably the most unreasonable people in the white house pulled President Trump back from what members of congress seemed to think is a reasonable way to move forward, to grant, you know, to give citizenship to the daca kids and also to give the president what he is asking for for a wall between us and mexico. I dont think thats a particularly good use of money but thats what the president wants and thats what compromise is about. So i hope they do reach a deal. Martha a clean funding bill on friday with daca included. But the president has said from the beginning and the president has been very outspoken on how he feels about the daca program. He has said since he was elected he said things a little bit stronger than this during the election. We want to love. We want to keep the kids who are good and who are prospering here in the United States. We want to keep them here. We want a tradeoff. We want Border Security which democrats have said for a very long time they were in favor of stiffening the security at the southern border. Now they say they are not willing to do that part. Well well, some of them are and we also know that senator durbin and republican senator graham apparently had what they thought was a deal that would allow the president to get part of what he wanted and also give, you know, give protections to the daca kids. So, hopefully they will find a way to work this out. Martha im sorry to interrupt. You watch Homeland Security head testifying today. She got hit about some questions about the phrase the president used in there. That it makes you wonder whether or not priority is really helping these deferred action children, many of whom are now adults and downadults. Is that really the priority for democrats . Do they want to get a daca deal at the end of this . Well, i think they
absolutely do. Martha do they want to work with the president on that. I think democrats will work will work with the president and will work with one another and will work across partisan lines to get this done. Unfortunately i was a mayor and i was a governor. What you have to understand is Leadership Matters and the words that leaders use also matter. When do you a Blanket Statement that a whole group of people from a continent or people have shole countries, that tends to erode the trust necessary for compromise. Martha but do you agree with me that statement, can you think its egregious and can you think its awful, horrible, everybody has their opinion on it but shouldnt derail the process. Should it be an excuse to hang everything up . No, i dont think it should be. Look, i have come to expect very, very little from President Trump by way of manners, by way of kuth, by way of treating people with dignity and respect. Thats a given. Hes not going to change he is in Perfect Health supposedly which means is he only going to get worse. Thats what we are dealing with right now. And we need to notwithstanding how abusive the president can be and how coarse and what a bad example he is for our kids. We need to serve the national interests. Martha heres the problem. I understand that your sensibilities are offended by things the president says. Of course, thats up to you. Thats a personal decision. If you are the parents of kate steinle and you are listening to democrats say that having supported Border Security all these years and a stronger fence and a stronger border that now you are not willing to do that and you would like to see republicans have to shut down the government over that issue. Can you imagine how they feel, how their sensibilities are affected by that . Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Look, i have set with families. Its not as if you have a family of all daca kids or a family, i mean, a lot of
families have children who were born in our country who are americans and they also have kids that are covered by daca. I mean, this is affecting very real people. I have spoke with a little girl, she was in 8th grade and every day she goes to school thinking when she comes home her family is going to have the doors kicked in and they are going to be gone and shell be here alone. They are real people. Martha of course they are real people. Chain migration is a big issue they would like to see. They also want to end the Visa Lottery System Recipient of which plowed down a whole group of people and killed 24e78d on the West Side Highway where i am right now. Would you encourage your fellow democrats to say you know what . Those are two areas we should negotiate with the white house and republicans on. I think both of those areas were things contemplated by the proposal that senators durbin and Lindsey Graham were on the phone with the president about look, there is always compromises. We can be true to our
principles and at the same time compromise in order to advance them. I hope thats what we are able to do. And, you know, if you want to talk about Sanctuary Cities, i saw some of the piece rolling into this. Martha yeah. Can you cite the example of that particular person but the truth of the matter is its not new american immigrants who are driving Violent Crime in america. Its native born americans. Martha three out of the four terrorists arrested in this country, some 500 of them are all from somewhere else. They are all foreigners that came to this country through the immigration program. Three out of four of them. I dont doubt that. But what i do take what i will contest is the notion that somehow mayors are creating sanctuaries for violent criminals. Look, mayors dont get elected to make their cities more violent. Martha they have to uphold the law, governor, do they not . Arent they subject to the law in their city . Excuse me, come again. Martha they have to
uphold the laws with regard to immigration. They are not allowed to subvert the law. Thats not their job. Martha what do you mean . Look, martha, there is a reason why every Police Commissioner, virtually every Police Commissioner of a big city in america says by Deposit Advertising local Law Enforcement and trying to turn them into the deportation dragnet, you are actually hurting the cause of Public Safety. You are eroding public trust in policing and you are not serving the. Martha the statute on the book says if you dont uphold that law and turn a blind eye to it you are indeed subject to prosecution yourself. So, thats what they are pursuing. Actually, our Attorney General told us that without warrants, that we are violating the constitution of our own state if we simply turn people over because of an email from ice. And so, look, all Public Safety depends on trust between police and the public. And trying to turn our local police into a dragnet, if thats what donald trump wants, let him go hire more people to create a big federal dragnet out there. You know what . Not even his people believe thats something thats good for our country. I hope we are able to recover our ability to talk with each other and i hope that we find protections for the daca kids. Martha it looks like they were talking to each other pretty well the other day. Walls can be dismantled but citizenship is something thats lasting and real and i have no doubt that the next generation of americans are not going to be the xenophobic, you know, immigrant. Martha governor, thank you investment. Thank you. Great being with you. Martha you too. Talk about it more. Marc thiessen enterprise scholar and Emily Success you heard ed set up and you heard the interview. Something happened, marc, between the group that was con general at the table on tuesday. It seems to me that then everybody went back to their corners and they heard, you know, they got an earful
from their bases and they said dont you give in on that and dont you give up on that. When you get back in there, you better hold your ground and you better fight this thing. So now we are in a situation where it looks like we are going to have to do another cr to get through the funding bill the end of this week and getting nowhere on immigration which looked a little bit promising on tuesday to at least those in the center. It sure did. Look, i think you hit the nail on out head when you were talking to governor omalley. The democrats dont want the deal. They dont want a solution. They want the issue. Because the president of the United States sat there with them and he said not only did he say he wanted to legalize the dreamers, the 800,000 or so of the dreamers, he wanted to go as far as comprehensive Immigration Reform that would legalize all 11 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. He said i will take the heat for both democrats and republicans if we can cut a deal. He wants a wall next change for that he wants changes in immigration. Is he willing to go and legalize all 11 million people. That is an extraordinary offer for the democrats to have. Martha extension tonight in eds piece, he said i
will take the heat. My whof life has been heat. I dont think thats. Martha you dont think thats true. I dont think thats true. I think what happened Lindsey Graham and dick durbin negotiated something. They didnt include all the people, all the voice. Goodlatte, cotton wasnt involved in it they brought this deal to the president that really wasnt a deal and wasnt what the president wanted or indicated he was willing to do. It got shot down. The reality, martha, look, george w. Bush couldnt pass comprehensive Immigration Reform. Barack obama couldnt pass comprehensive Immigration Reform. Just like only nixon can go to china, only donald trump can sign comprehensive Immigration Reform into law. Democrats have to decide do you want this issue for 2018 or help these people. The way they are handling this, leaking meetings, attacking the president. Exposing whats said in a private negotiation, if they are acting like people that dont care about Illegal Immigrants they care about the issue. Martha if you care about Illegal Immigrants and care
about the daca kids, emily there is a way forward. Go ahead. We seem to be flig a different world in interpreting the events of last week entirely differently here. What was brought to the president was a bipartisan deal. He said bring me a bipartisan deal that includes a number of pieces in it including protections for daca kids and it was. It was brought to him. And then apparently someone in the white house got to him, look, its not like Lindsey Graham the republican who went into that meeting who has been leading on these talks for at least four months if not years. Its not like he is not an ally of president. He is. He went in there and said i have a bipartisan deal on the table. Apparently the king of deals does not understand what a bipartisan deal looks like the fact that both sides gives a little. Both sides did give a little. Martha given a lot. Agreeing to protections for all the Daca Kids In Protection for Border Security, Chain Migration and visa lottery. Im sorry i have to leave it there im way over ti