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FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum March 29, 2018

Years in the department of justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us, and we are conducting that investigation. Sandra and tonight we have a name. U. S. Attorney john huber from utah is conducting the investigation. He is doing it from outside washington. Its a move some are applauding because of hubers distance from, the quote, swamp. While others want to know why a special counsel is not taking the reigns. Chief news correspondent ed henry is live in washington with the latebreaking details on this. Good evening, ed. Sandra, great to see you. This could be a big deal. What the attorney general is really saying is that he does not necessarily need a special counsel right now to get to the bottom of whether fbi and Justice Department officials during the obama days broke any laws when they engaged in fisa abuse to spy on the Trump Campaign because he already has a criminal prosecutor looking at it and getting all over it. In a letter to republicans, chuck grassley, trey gowdy and bob goodlatte, sessions is reserving the right to name a second spown beyond Robert Mueller down the road to hold officials at the fbi and Justice Department accountable. Sessions is revealing for the first time he already has been quietly having that u. S. Attorney john hiewbler out in utah operating, as you said, outside the beltway, using his prosecutorial powers with a broad mandate to investigate ms. Conduct that could actualle. Misconduct. Andrew mccabe could be facing big scrutiny for not just telling the fisa judge that the antitrump dossier was paid for by the Hillary Clinton and dnc. Leaking to the media, his lying to investigators about that, plus those fbi Text Messages that have gotten so much attention. Sessions writing in part, quote im confident mr. Hiewbleer hubers review wl include a full complete consistent with the laws and the facts. I receive regular updates from mr. Huber and upon the conclusion of his review will receive his recommendations as to whether any matters not currently under investigation should be opened. Whether any matters currently under investigation require more resources or whether any matters require the appointment of a special counsel. Sessions faced heat again last night when it was revealed that the Department Inspector general was reviewing all of this. Some critics said that official does not have prosecutorial powers. Well, john huber does. Sessions, as you noted, hinted at this to our own Shannon Bream although there are republicans like trey gowdy who want more. This is what he recently told martha. I think the better course is to have Second Special counsel. Let mr. Mueller keep looking at russian interference. Let him keep looking at evidence of collusion. Have a separate special counsel look into decisions made and not made in 2016 with respect to the bureau and the department. A key point is that huber was first nominated by then president obama. If he brings criminal charges, it will have credibility. Likewise, if he finds no criminal wrongdoing, it will be noted this is someone who stepped down when barack obama left office. Renominated by President Trump with the backing of very conservative republican senator mike lee of utah. This is a pretty Big Development tonight, sandra. Sandra thank you. Here with reaction Corey Lewandowski former Trump Campaign manager currently serving as chief strategist for the trump super pac. It would be great to have you first react to this news. The attorney general deciding no Second Special counsel, at least for now. Souter of leaving the door open. What do you think . Look, i have to say i agree with congressman trey gowdy. A Second Special counsel is needed. It is warranted. While i respect the fact that attorney general sessions is moving forward with an investigation, with an individual who has prosecutorial ability here, and someone who is outside the beltway, i respect that but all of the evidence that we have seen, as it relates to fisa abuses, as it relates to james comey giving information to a former law professor of his, to make sure that it made it into the public sphere, as it relates to Andrew Mccabe and the ig report waiting on. As it relates to chirac and page and all the other abuses taking place at the fbi. Not included but bill clinton and the attorney general of the Clinton Administration of the obama administration, we have to make sure that a special counsel is in place. Sandra any time go to wide ranging time Time Magazine Jeff Sessions did as Time Magazine put it, is Jeff Sessions winning for donald trump as they titled it . Well, look, i think Jeff Sessions is a great man. I know him very well. I have Great Respect for what he has done for our country. I think in this particular case and, again, i agree with trey gowdy and other members of the Republican Leadership who have been able to see information that they have been concerned about and they were the ones who were asking the attorney general of the United States to appoint that Second Special counsel. They have more information than the general public does. When trey gowdy a person who has intimate knowledge of what has taken place of the fisa abuse system has asked for this, i think is an obligation for the attorney general to go amend appoint that second person. I know many people have called for it. We have to hold the fbi individual accountable for the abuses that they have had. Martha we do know that he also revealed that federal prosecutor, john huber. We will be looking into certain issues involving the fbi and the doj. Here is an excerpt from that Time Magazine place the president talking about the president s loyalty. I do i want to do what he wants me to do. I feel like we are advancing the agenda that he believes. In whats good for me is its what i believe in, too. Im just wondering what is he trying to say there . I think what, you know, what i think attorney general Jeff Sessions is trying to say there, the agenda that this president believes in is cracking down on illegal immigration, stopping the ms13 gangs. Those are the same things that general sessions has fought author when he was then senator sessions. I think the president and general sessions are completely aligned on the issue of stopping illegal immigration and cracking down on ms13 gangs. Sandra is he going to keep his job then . I do. I believe attorney general sessions is going to keep his job for the foreseeable future. Sandra interesting. He also had this to say on the recusal which, of course, some might say the president has never really quite gotten over. I think i did the right thing, said sessions, i dont think the attorney general can ask everybody else in the department to fault rules that the attorney general doesnt follow them. Has the president really been able to come around on that issue, corey . I know you speak to him often. As you know, i dont speak for the president , but i do think that he has been very clear, that he has been disappointed that prior to the nomination of Jeff Sessions to be the highest Law Enforcement officer in the land as the attorney general, Jeff Sessions did not tell then president elect trump that he was going to recuse himself from any potential investigation as it related to russia. Look, i was on the campaign for a long period of time. Then senator sessions was part of the campaign on the periphery. He endorsed candidate trump at the time. But he wasnt actively involved in the Decision Making of the campaign. This motion that he had to recuse himself is i still think a little foreign to a lot of people. If he was going to do that i think he should have told the president or president elect prior to accepting the position. Sandra i want to move onto the shakeup inside the white house as we know today the v. A. Secretary shulkin is out. The white house physician Ronnie Johnson jackson is in. You know, this is causing the media to run with this chaos inside the white house story right now. And on his way out, shulkin penned this sort of scathing oped in the New York Times where he talked about a toxic, chaotic disrespectful washington. And im just wondering from your view, did that look like a parting shot at the president . You know, i have Great Respect for the former v. A. Secretary. And i think he actually did a fairly good job. And i think he is right. Washington, d. C. Is a swamp. We have been saying this now for the last 15 months. No one is giving credit to admiral jackson coming in to put a new view on the v. A. And the most important thing that we have to remember is that were giving our veterans, the men and women who served in our military the best possible care. And while i understand that he was and is still and was and still is a active military duty officer he is going to step down from that he understands because he has friends who have retired from the military. Some of the broken problems in the v. A. He will put a new light on that. He should be praised for the fact that a physician is going to be able to take over the Veterans Affairs administration should he be confirmed and give a new perspective on making sure that our veterans get the best care possible. I dont know how anybody can criticize him for that. Sandra sounds like i dont have to ask you if you think he is the right guy for the job. I want to move on to a story that seems to be changing tonight, that is the departure of Andrew Mccabe, the top fbi official as we all know fired just hours before his official retirement was set to take place. He is now soliciting online donations for his Legal Defense fund, corey. And i will tell you something that even if you know the story you may not know now. This is the posting asking for this go fund me account, a picture of the family. His son and daughter. The family dog. A goal of 150,000 and tonight the number has been climbing. The latest 160, 1,705,000. Is now climbed to. His spokesperson, Melissa Schwartz has put out this statement via twitter saying the support for Andrew Mccabe has been overwhelming, humbling and deeply. The need for a Legal Defense fund is a growing reality. Please click here for info about the official Andrew Mccabe defense fund. Your thoughts on that . Well, he is going to need a lot more money than that just because the fact that he was fired, his worst days are not behind him. They are clearly in front of him. We are anxiously awaiting the inspector generals report which clearly delineates we believe that he lied to the inspector general. That he clearly allowed either other members of the fbi or himself to leak information. We believe thats in the report. We know thats a violation. He should be held accountable to the same standards of every other person when they speak to someone at the fbi, which if you tell them a lie, it is called a felony. You can go ask mike flynn about it and ask a whole bunch of other people. The only people who get away with it, Hillary Clinton, huma abedin and cheryl mills. Who do they all speak to Andrew Mccabe. No accountability. He needs a lot more money than 160,000 to defend himself for the lies he has told. Sandra you sound pretty fired up tonight, corey. Well, look, he is deep state and there has to be accountability. The problem is these fbi agents have had no accountability and the American People deserve better. Sandra a lot going on and a lot of changes happening inside out white house and the news on Jeff Sessions tonight. A lot we were able to get to, corey. Good to have you on the program tonight. Thank you. Sandra thank you. Up next, team trump scores a major legal victory in the Stormy Daniels scandal. Does this mean his attorney and Michael Cohen are completely in the clear . Constitutional law attorney Jonathan Turley has the answer next. Plus, a former new Orleans Saints cheerleader fighting back after being fired over an instagram post. Bailey davis will be here to tell us why she is now accusing the team of discrimination. We are both employed by the saints. I think our rules should be the same. Piano music vo they share one planter. And last season, it was a flowering disaster. This year, theyre not messing around. 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This is a squirmish. It should be taken as too much of a weighty change in the case. The problem with this litigation is it began with a truly horrifically drafted agreement by Michael Cohen. And it was really filled with flaws that daniels attorney has succeeded in attacking. The problem that i have is that i often tell my students you dont litigate because you can. You have to constantly ask myself what am i trying to achieve now for my client in Going Forward . I dont see any intelligent design behind the president s counsel in pursuing this matter. The legal and political cost for President Trump will only rise the stosh is out. Story is out. Mr. Cohen says he wants 20 million to do on a vacation with it its not a strategy and not putting President Trumps interests ahead of his own. Sandra whats so d. O. That say about the legal team he was around him, jonathan. You can pick up how i view that mr. Cohen is punching above his weight class against michael. I admit he is my former research assistant. I have good to till the only thing those two have in common is their first name. Albonetti has done a wonderful job going from the defense to the offense. But, ultimately, mr. Cohen agreement is going to have a hard time standing up because mr. Cohens attorney, mr. Schwartz said last night the president was never aware of the final details of the agreement or possibly the agreement as a whole. Thats going to create serious problems. That would make it sound like is he not a party to this agreement. The arbitration clause seems to rest in his hands. Sandra i know you wrote a piece published in your blog tonight. In that piece, jonathan, you say trump faces john edwards fate. Can you explain the comparison and where you are suggesting this is heading from here . Well, this is sort of like christmas future. Its not necessarily his future. Is he going to have to show a much greater level of discipline over his counsel and his choices in the daniels case. I have never believed that collusion represented a threat to President Trump. This can. People should not under estimate it. John edwards was indicted for inkind finance violations when third parties gave money to his mistress. The problem with what was said by mr. Schwartz last night when he said that trump really didnt have any knowledge of this, makes that 130,000 that cohen paid out of his own account look like an inkind campaign contribution. Thats what edwards was indicted for. Sandra looks like and being one are two i dont have to tell you that are two completely different things. Thats right. I was critical of the edwards indictment. So your point is a good one. I still have a difficulty with this theory. But it was good enough to pull him into a court of law. The problem for President Trump is that this can metastasize from a civil to a criminal matter. He doesnt want to have that happen. And i have to tell you he doesnt want that to happen with Michael Cohen as lead counsel. Sandra all right. Point taken. I have only have a few seconds left. Im sorry to put this under your pinch. If is he your client, what do you do what are his best options . Drop the litigation. Have you nothing in this that is going to improve the situation

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